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GLA atomic paintball co2 "regulator"

is this regulator similar to the popular paintball c02 "regulator" sold on this forum?
i thought regulators would have 2 gauges one for output and tank? http://greenleafaquariums.com/co2-re...o2-kit-v1.html

is it safe to use? i'm trying to search for why paintball regulator that so many people made here are unsafe and have been coming up short as to what the specifics are aside from quality parts and/or construction. sorry i know it's been discussed but when i search for paintball co2 unsafe very few threads pop up.
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That one is an actual regulator. The "regulator" commonly sold on this forum is an on/off valve. The regulator gets the pressure from roughly 800-1000 psi to anywhere from 50-200 as opposed to the on/off valve where you have all that pressure going into your tank. I used the on/off valve for a while and it is pretty hard to get a stable rate of co2 and people have said it is dangerous. Not all regulators have 2 gauges some have a fixed output pressure where it will only put out a certain pressure.

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That one is an actual regulator. The "regulator" commonly sold on this forum is an on/off valve. The regulator gets the pressure from roughly 800-1000 psi to anywhere from 50-200 as opposed to the on/off valve where you have all that pressure going into your tank. I used the on/off valve for a while and it is pretty hard to get a stable rate of co2 and people have said it is dangerous. Not all regulators have 2 gauges some have a fixed output pressure where it will only put out a certain pressure.
nice, thanks for your response!

so the on/off valve is not a regulator and just moves all that pressure pretty much into the tank?

how would i know if this one is indeed a regulator? it seems like people use that term very loosely.

lastly, do you have any idea how it really might be dangerous to use the on/off valve? i guess over time it won't be able to handle all that pressure huh?
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That one is definitely a regulator. "Fixed working pressure, designed specifically for use with Atomic CO2 diffusers." That is the regulating part. The on off valve just lets you open up the paintball co2 tank and let the co2 out.

People say the on/off valve is dangerous because most regulators have a needle wheel. It is very hard to adjust a needle valve with 800PSI behind it and your only trying to get a little bit out. My experience was that once it was closed it was a pain to get open and if I overturned it while trying to get it open it would put out waaay too much pressure and whatever it was connected to would pop off. Im a big guy too and I was having trouble moving it

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That one is definitely a regulator. "Fixed working pressure, designed specifically for use with Atomic CO2 diffusers." That is the regulating part. The on off valve just lets you open up the paintball co2 tank and let the co2 out.

People say the on/off valve is dangerous because most regulators have a needle wheel. It is very hard to adjust a needle valve with 800PSI behind it and your only trying to get a little bit out. My experience was that once it was closed it was a pain to get open and if I overturned it while trying to get it open it would put out waaay too much pressure and whatever it was connected to would pop off. Im a big guy too and I was having trouble moving it
much appreciated. thanks for the info!
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"Fixed working pressure" is your key there. The regulator will stabilize the output pressure, while the on/off valves will have an erratic output depending mostly on the temperature of the PB tank. The on/off valves are dangerous in that they can output a huge volume of gas in a short amount of time if the valve isn't closed far enough. Imagine screwing the PB tank into a valve that is mistakenly left wide open. Now you've got 800+ psi of gas freeflowing into a thin glass bubble (your diffuser). If the glass fails before the tubing pops off, now you've got a bomb. Out of your tank, you've got glass shards flying through the air. In the tank, you've got expanding glass and gas right next to your walls. Do the math on that one. These are all worst-case scenarios of course, and you probably won't encounter catastrophic failure. The main drawback of the on/off valves is the wildly fluctuating bubble count...
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"Fixed working pressure" is your key there. The regulator will stabilize the output pressure, while the on/off valves will have an erratic output depending mostly on the temperature of the PB tank. The on/off valves are dangerous in that they can output a huge volume of gas in a short amount of time if the valve isn't closed far enough. Imagine screwing the PB tank into a valve that is mistakenly left wide open. Now you've got 800+ psi of gas freeflowing into a thin glass bubble (your diffuser). If the glass fails before the tubing pops off, now you've got a bomb. Out of your tank, you've got glass shards flying through the air. In the tank, you've got expanding glass and gas right next to your walls. Do the math on that one. These are all worst-case scenarios of course, and you probably won't encounter catastrophic failure. The main drawback of the on/off valves is the wildly fluctuating bubble count...
haha loved your descriptions!

yea i always read they were not really safe relative to a regulator. i just wanted to make sure i was buying a regulator. looks like i'm going this route!
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