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Hi everyone....

Does anyone have a suggestion on what to purchase to get rid of haze/cloudiness in the tank? Cheaper the better of course~!

Someone said Magnum HOT...but that does not have diatomaceous earth...will that still work?

I noticed BUCK cleaned one of his tanks out with something....anyone know what?

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post #2 of 28 (permalink) Old 08-05-2003, 08:08 PM
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Buck is using the DIATOM D-1 VORTEX FILTER from BigAlsOnline.com.

Buck discussed it here.
And has his story with it here.

I have one on coming in the mail.
I also ordered the Diatom Recharge Valve from BigAl's as Buck discussed in the linked post.

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If this is a new setup, I'd just wait it out. It'll go away on it's own as soon as the tank cycles.
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I've got the Vortex Freedom Filter. Also very nice. I wish I had the D-1 because it has a glass jar and mine's plastic.
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Mike did you try the white micron filtration pad that came with the xps. They work well but they clog up quickly. Like Doomer said, the dust will settle out as soon as you start getting some bio-activity in the tank.

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H.O.T. Magnum is fully compatible with diatom filtration. IME even running the micron filter without powder will yield you almost-as-good results if you give it a little time.
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Last I looked (2 mo. ago) the HOT Magnum was only $40 from BigAls. I think I might have to pick up on one of those.

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2la,

What do you need to order with the HOT to get Diatomaceous filtration? Extra filter, DE?

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Get the HOT magnum, set it up with the micron cartridge (it may come with one) and get DE if it didnt come with a package. You sprinkle the DE into the canister filter where it gets sucked into the Micron filter pleats.
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Thanks will try that do you have one....??? for you....how far is it from the canister to the inlet outlet...I have 1.2 inches of space from edge tank to water.

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I have a magnum 350 Pro, its the under tank model but they are very similar.

I couldnt tell you exactly how far the inlets and outlets are, but they should be a few inches under water regardless. I wouldnt worry about it.
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The best way to coat a filter with DE is to first prime the filter, then dunk a large pitcher or mug into the aquarium and scoop the filter intake and output hoses in the pitcher without allowing the intake to suck air. Next lift the pitcher up out of the tank and add the DE to the pitcher, this way the de is in a small closed system, and it can be picked up on subsequent passes through the fiter if it manages to get through the first time. I'm not sure how feasable this is for the magnums, but it works very well for the Vortex filters.
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Thats a good idea digger.... I don't see any reason why that wouldnt work for the magnums either
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I'm not sure how feasable this is for the magnums, but it works very well for the Vortex filters.
I've simply hung the Magnum over the lip of a 5G or smaller bucket filled with treated water and a cup or so of DE. Open the lid and fill the filter with treated water (priming). Run the filter for about ten or fifteen minutes with the outflow directed downward at an angle to keep the powder on the bottom of the bucket churned up. Stir up the bottom a couple of times to assist the process. When the water runs clear and there's very little powder left, the filter is charged and can be transferred to the tank immediately.
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I run my Magnum 350 w/ micron cartridge on daily basis and once in a while w/ diatom powder. It works great as for as polishing water and amazingly for Algae blooms. I had Algae Bloom in one of my planted tanks few years back and it was gone after 2 hours of Magnum filtration. It's also excellent for initial setup where Flourite is used and "cloudy water/new tank" is present.

This is my tank at initial stages with Flourite present. Don't you love that cloudiness



This picture is 1 hour later.




Here is a step by step explanation on how to use Magnum 350 for diatomic filtration.

1. You take your Mag 350 and fill it with regular water up to the line and you buy Vortex diatom earth powder (could be purchased in swimming pool store).




2. You take about 1 cup of diatom earth powder.



3. You dump the powder into the cansiter.



4. Now the tricky part. Place some type of container inside the tank so you could place your IN/OUT tubes inside that container.
Reason: Although powder is not harmfull to fish you don't want it floating in your tank.
Just wait till filter is done priming ---> powder is sticking to micron cartridge and then take that container out.





5. Final setup of Mag 350

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