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post #1 of 28 (permalink) Old 07-29-2003, 07:26 PM Thread Starter
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I want a regulator without solenoid but with a needle valve!
wanna run ph-controller-less ;p

for a dual gauge regulator, what is a safe pressure on the low side?
there are alot of beer regulator going really cheap!!! but are they suitable for our planted tank setup? and why?

Marc sells a $70+ regulator with solenoid and bubble counter, which I think its a steal! but I dont need the solenoid

confused :roll:
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post #2 of 28 (permalink) Old 07-29-2003, 08:11 PM
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The Aqua Medic regulator has the needle valve built in and it works perfectly.

My second tank uses a beer regulator with a clippard needle valve. The regulator works flawlessly but I can't say the same for the Clippard needle valve. YMMV tho.

Output pressure should be between 20 and 25 psi.
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For $70 it'd be hard to find a quality regulator and needle valve. Buy marcs setup and just remove the solenoid for some other time when you might need it. Its all modular. 15-20 psi seems to be the pressure range most people use. Any lower than that and its difficult to get consistency from most needle valves.

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Look for equipment on this site...down a few forums....


O.k, now its on ebay for a little less.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=2337899170



Maybe this is what you can look for.


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post #5 of 28 (permalink) Old 07-29-2003, 10:40 PM Thread Starter
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Ahhh... goody advice! thanks guys!

so it is really modular? the needle valve will thread in place of the solenoid seamlessly?

Aqua medic regulator looks really neat!

if the needle valve would thread in perfectly on Marc's bang-for-buck regulator, I will buy that!!!
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On the Milwakee setup that marc has you can take it apart and rethread the needle valve into the regulator but I don't know about the Aquamedic.

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The Milwaukee set up is modular, but it can be a bit difficult to take apart. I needed to replace the bubble counter on mine. The fittings were tight and "doped" together. If you want to take it apart, be patient, take your time, and be careful!
Why don't you want to use the regulator? Instead of removing it, you could just plug it in and be done with it.

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I think it's the solenoid he don't want to use.
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Im gonna run 24/7 on it and it might burn out the solenoid...even if I put in timer for 12 hrs a day. and heat is not good for needle valve too
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I use a beer regulator with a clippard needle valve. It works great. I was haveing stability problems when I was trying to use 2 needle valves in series, but with one there are no problems. I think I got it for about $35 on ebay.
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I use a beer regulator with a clippard needle valve. It works great. I was haveing stability problems when I was trying to use 2 needle valves in series, but with one there are no problems. I think I got it for about $35 on ebay.
WOW! but I dont know what is a clippard needle valve and how it looks like... any pics or explanation?
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Go to www.clippard.com the model number most of us use is the MNV-4K2. Be advised you will need a 10-32 to 1/8 or 1/4 adapter to place this needle valve on most regulators. Or you might have to use a 10-32 to 1/8 and then a 1/8 to 1/4 adapter. DIY pressurized is very possible but it can be a lot of work finding all the needed parts and adapters. Aquabotanic.com has the needle valve with the 10-32 to 1/8" adapter included on their site.
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Make sure it's the 1/8" adaptor you need. My regulator was 1/4" and that delayed my co2 project until I could get one in and then I had to order 10 of them.
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I just got my milwaukee regulator and, although I plan on getting a PH monitor sometime in the future, I don't have any use for the solenoid right now.

I'm new to pressurized CO2 so I'm a little confused as to which part is the actual solenoid. It looks like the part of the solenoid with the power cord is attach/detachable. Is that enough or do I need to detach the other part, with the screws, somehow?

Thanks for your help. I understand all the parts of the system except the solenoid. :roll:

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I would suggest you leave it attached and just plug it in. I've read of others having trouble separating it without mangling both the solenoid and the fittings.

Besides, you may decide you want a controller much sooner than you think. They are worthwhile.
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