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Where can I find for 200? Checked amazon and it's 290 plus almost every review there says it leaks from the top due to a design flaw.


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The 2 2075's are driving a 120-P, the 2026 on the right is driving a 60-P with Hydor in-line heater and an UpAqua atomizer, the outflow is DoAqaua lilly pipe connected via 3/4" to 1/2" reducer barb. So, the 2028 better work also


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Very nice setup!
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Made a video of my 2028 at maximum flow during a water change to give a feel of what I am seeing. Who knows, this may be normal flow and I am just needing to upgrade to a beefier filter. The flow looks pretty good when the water level is town. It's not very substantial with the water level full.

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I doubt that is normal. I can't speak from experience with anything but the classic series. I know my Eheim 2217's push out MUCH more flow than that. What is your pump rated at?
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Pump 277 gph, filter 198 according to the Eheim materials.
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Pump 277 gph, filter 198 according to the Eheim materials.
My Eheim 2217 is 265 with ~80% tested efficiency so 212 filter gph.
My 2217 has quite a bit more flow than that. I will take a video and upload it when I get home.

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That lily pipe has a very wide spout, It could be deceiving, have you tried an actual test? Ya got one if those 5 gallon orange hd buckets? Silly question huh, I bet everybody in the states in this hobby ones at least one, any way get the bucket and time how long it takes to fill it, however long it takes you can figure out how many gallons per hour you are pumping. I run a 2217 and a 2026 on my 120p which is 65 gallons about 55-60 with substrate and hardscape installed, the 2026 could handle the tank by itself but I love 2 cans on bigger tanks.


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I should be doing a WC on 60P today - I'll double-check what my flow looks like, even though the spout I use is a bit narrower @ 13mm. I agree with mott, it is rather deceiving, but still...

I know it's a hassle, and I understand that TexasCichlid does not have a spare outflow, but I would remove the lilly pipe, insert a length of 1/2" hose into 5/8" hose (should be pretty snug fit) and let it rip. I personally would expect a hurricane in the tank.Those lili pipes are designed for 'gentle' flow...

If you want to do the bucket test, keep in mind that 5gl buckets are actually closer to 6gl and too many people got 'low' results. I would measure exactly 5gl for the test.
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OVT -- Thanks. I have no doubt that a 1/2inch output would be a considerable amount of flow. I will try a bucket test.
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OVT -- Thanks. I have no doubt that a 1/2inch output would be a considerable amount of flow. I will try a bucket test.
excitedly awaiting the results of your bucket test...
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I have liters marked out on my buckets so it should be pretty accurate.
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Just tested it out. Based on a 198gph advertised filter flow rate, I calculated 12.5 liters per minute equivalent. My actual flowrate is 6 liters per minutes and that's rounding up just slightly. Actual flowrate is ~45% of reality at this point, or ~89gph. Guesstimating, I think ~120-150gph would be sufficient for my needs. That 2075 is likely a bit too much horsepower if it actually puts out what it advertises. I cannot decide if I want to try and diagnose/fix the filter I have, or just buy a new one.
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Like most Eheims, 2075 comes with adjustable flow. Not that I'm trying to push you in that direction: you can find 2075 on line for < $210 throughout the year, at least I was able to.

Using your numbers I came up with 95 gph, which is pretty close to your ~89 gph. Interestingly enough, http://aqadvisor.com/, uses 'real life flow' of 92 gph for 2026, 158 gph for 2028, and 280 gph for 2075. I find that site's numbers to be in sync with my personal experience.

Did you do the bucket test with heater/reactor attached?

Coming from a technical background, I was taught to ask the obvious: does the sticker on the back of the filter states the model number as 2028? I believe 2028 holds 3 baskets, while 2026 holds 2. Just checking

Even if I personally were to get a replacement filter, it would drive me nuts not understanding what's up with the 2028. I'd mostly likely spent countless hours trying to figure it out for myself
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Fluval 306 maybe?


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