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post #196 of 313 (permalink) Old 05-07-2013, 01:00 PM
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Did my tank not get filled as much as I was told or what could be causing this;

I had my 10# tank half filled on Sunday, the reason it was half filled is because the guy filling it said since it was so big and it wasn't cold enough it wasn't filling. So he said he got it to 5lbs full. I got back home and hooked up my built regulator for the first time and my in pressure read 650, this morning its reading 450, and my out pressure fluctuated from 15 PSI to about 8. I did a leak check yesterday and found a leak, on one of my connections, tightened everything up and did a leak test on the whole system twice, no leak. I will run another test this evening just to confirm it for the 3rd time.

Any ideas? I'm going to go somewhere else and have my 10# filled.
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A 10 pound cylinder is too big to fill?

Time to go somewhere else.

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So its sounding like its undergassed?
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You're cylinder should be frozen at the time of fill. A reputable place won't do it otherwise.

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Ok, so I need stick the tank literally in the freezer and take it to get gassed tomorrow evening. I will do that.
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I finally found a place to fill it, they said that the Paintball places just use the pressure to fill your tank, the tanks at larger Oxygen & Machine shops use a pump to actually pump the CO2 liquid into the tank. Just some good information if you don't want to freeze your tank.
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^ See that what I was confused about. The paintball place told me to put my tank in the fridge but when I filled my 5lb they just didn't care. You guys ever seen the tank they use to fill cylinders? Massive! Like a missile hooked up to some other crazy thing. Also, expect the tank to be ICE cold when you get it back. Mine was almost too cold to hold on too.

It's about time I refilled my 20 oz paintball, still going strong at 0 liquid left hahahah weird.



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I am back, co2 equipment questions pl post here

Finally got all the regulators. It's Time to turn them into something useful for the planted tanks!





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That air gas regulator looks a bit funny, hahahah if you know what I mean hahahahah



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Finally got all the regulators. It's Time to turn them into something useful for the planted tanks!




well, looks like you need to place me a visit, and bring all the regulators you have.

The shinny airgas should be a Concoa 312 chassis regulator, not really sure but the possibility is high.
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^ See that what I was confused about. The paintball place told me to put my tank in the fridge but when I filled my 5lb they just didn't care. You guys ever seen the tank they use to fill cylinders? Massive! Like a missile hooked up to some other crazy thing. Also, expect the tank to be ICE cold when you get it back. Mine was almost too cold to hold on too.

It's about time I refilled my 20 oz paintball, still going strong at 0 liquid left hahahah weird.
I could understand why a place without a pump would want you to freeze it, but with the pump it nullifies that part. The 10lb was completely frosted the whole way around and took less that 1-2 minutes to fill. The guy at the Paintball placed struggled for 20 minutes and barely got anything. My PSI is now reading 800PSI.
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Anyone have input on these all-in-one type regulators?

CORALVUE DICI MINI TWO STAGE CO2 PRESSURE REGULATOR WITH SOLENOID BUBBLE COUNTER

and this one?

http://www.aquariumplants.com/Carbon...ator_p/co2.htm

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Was also thinking of getting the Milwaukee MA957 all-in-one package and replacing the needle valve for a Nupro Swagelok 1/4" Metering Valve or a Swagelok Part SS-4LA Metering Valve. Then replacing the bubble counter for a JBJ 2-in-1 Bubble counter and check valve or some other bubble counter. Would the part swapping be better than what is included in the Milwaukee MA957?

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Anyone have input on these all-in-one type regulators?

CORALVUE DICI MINI TWO STAGE CO2 PRESSURE REGULATOR WITH SOLENOID BUBBLE COUNTER

and this one?

http://www.aquariumplants.com/Carbon...ator_p/co2.htm
DICI 's definition of TWO STAGE, is two gauges.

And the Carbon Doser Electronic system, OUTPUT PRESSURE RISE still exists.
which CO2 regulator would u buy???

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Was also thinking of getting the Milwaukee MA957 all-in-one package and replacing the needle valve for a Nupro Swagelok 1/4" Metering Valve or a Swagelok Part SS-4LA Metering Valve. Then replacing the bubble counter for a JBJ 2-in-1 Bubble counter and check valve or some other bubble counter. Would the part swapping be better than what is included in the Milwaukee MA957?
Do not touch the SS-4LA, it is high flow L series metering valve, get the S series or M series.
and you can build a system if have tools and do enough homework, both Darkblade and Oldpunk have instruction thread to guide you through.

BTW, is your last name Wu?
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Re: I am back, co2 equipment questions pl post here

Yeah Johnny Wu lmao. Nah my last name is Ho! Lol. Good to know dici is just two gauge and not two stage. Thanks.

I was looking at darkblade's primer and went shopping around [Ebay Link Removed] With everything together it'll easily cost me over $150 and that's not including the tank which is about $70. A decent two stage reg was $80-100. Solenoid was $20-40. Metering valve $20-40. Bubble counter + check valve $10-20. There's also the tubing, drop checker, and diffusers. The Milwaukee looked like a great option.


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