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post #1 of 37 (permalink) Old 03-08-2012, 05:20 PM Thread Starter
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Mats under rimless tanks

I recently set up a RIMLESS 20 gallon long. Unfortunately, I did not put a yoga mat under this tank. There is water and a colony of shrimps in there right now. After reading some horror stories online about rimless tanks busting at the seams, I'm considering draining most of the water and putting a mat under the tank. HOWEVER, speaking to to other hobbyist some say its really not needed for smaller tanks. The tank is on a stand that is pretty level. Not perfect but only about 1/2 cm off. I have mats under all my other rimless tanks, I just skipped a step this time and I am kind of regretting it.

Should I stick a mat under anyways?

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Just my opinion, but an ounce of prevention.... PITA to now but I would feel a bit more at ease if it were me :0)
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Not sure I'd consider a 20 gallon rimless tank small.. 2 gallons maybe, but not 20. Get some foam under there.
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In my country, we used to put nothing under rimless tanks. I'm not sure if this will work for earthquake-socal-area.
However, I think you should do it, especially for rimless tank. We are in socal too.
Call few more friends, 20g is not a big deal. Cut it first, drain more than half water in it (a 20g with substrate and 5-7g of water is easy for 2 and a third person for putting the mat in), lift the tank up and put the mat or HD foam under it. So you don't stress out your shrimp.
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Do what I did, use those cabinet liners you see at Wallyworld. Stack them like 5 layers thick and viola. Instant foam cushion brotha! lol Works for my 120-P.

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On my 120-P, I used 2 layers of foam board(?) at Office Depot. I think that product is supposed to be for sales presentations or something LOL!

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my question is.. why do you do this in the first place?
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Took me 5 minutes to move my 20 long from my bedroom to my living room. Drain, lift, move. Filling took the longest. It only weighs about 50 pounds with most of the water drained.

Get the AquaPro 20 long? Exact tank I have. Great quality for $110

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my question is.. why do you do this in the first place?
Concept is to evenly distribute the weight across the entire bottom of the tank due to the floor or stand not being perfectly level and stand sagging over time. Like a mini shock absorber/cushion under the tank. The reported failures on rimless tanks are usually the seams when one side or corner is stress over time compared to the other side.

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Took me 5 minutes to move my 20 long from my bedroom to my living room. Drain, lift, move. Filling took the longest. It only weighs about 50 pounds with most of the water drained.

Get the AquaPro 20 long? Exact tank I have. Great quality for $110
We probably got it from the same spot or person.

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Concept is to evenly distribute the weight across the entire bottom of the tank due to the floor or stand not being perfectly level and stand sagging over time. Like a mini shock absorber/cushion under the tank. The reported failures on rimless tanks are usually the seams when one side or corner is stress over time compared to the other side.

good to know
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I was watching some Amano scaping videos and even under his big 180p's, I didn't see any mats? I'm I missing something or does he not use them?

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I have a 20 gallon tank without a mat. Seems fine. I did find out that Mr. Aqua tanks will have mats in a few months for their size tanks.

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I was watching some Amano scaping videos and even under his big 180p's, I didn't see any mats? I'm I missing something or does he not use them?
He has an army of boys to hand him plants and rocks, surely he has them hand sand his stands to perfect levelness as well.
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