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post #76 of 234 (permalink) Old 03-08-2012, 05:04 PM Thread Starter
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Go to harbor freight and get a little bigger one for like 20 bucks

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That was my first thought, I did that this morning and they either had to big or to small. At least at my store. I'm going to look into the T and ball valve option

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marine depot if u buy another pump.. rio's are cheap and reliable
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Count me in too!!! As far a co2 gas off I have a 1/2 pvc in my overflow pulling a direct siphon going right into the sump. works great ! bio balls and anything as far as tricking or wet dry will gas off co2 as well. I cut my co2 from 1 #5 every 3 weeks to one every other month on a 75g with a 20L sump. I use a 3" pvc reactor 3' long with no bubbles in the display tank.

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Count me in too!!! As far a co2 gas off I have a 1/2 pvc in my overflow pulling a direct siphon going right into the sump. works great ! bio balls and anything as far as tricking or wet dry will gas off co2 as well. I cut my co2 from 1 #5 every 3 weeks to one every other month on a 75g with a 20L sump. I use a 3" pvc reactor 3' long with no bubbles in the display tank.
ur key is ur full siphon. most of use are not running full siphon and that tube burns a lot of c02
it also very much oxygenates the water
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ur key is ur full siphon. most of use are not running full siphon and that tube burns a lot of c02
it also very much oxygenates the water
yea I was trying to get a fill siphon balanced on mine.... Started just making me mad lol.

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ur key is ur full siphon. most of use are not running full siphon and that tube burns a lot of c02
it also very much oxygenates the water
Don't the plants do that too?

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yea I was trying to get a fill siphon balanced on mine.... Started just making me mad lol.
Use a second drain line to take up the slack -- Google "herbie overflow" for details on the approach.
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Don't the plants do that too?


Use a second drain line to take up the slack -- Google "herbie overflow" for details on the approach.
Absolutely.. but a sump in general adds about 1-2 ppm of oxygen more to the water over what u previously had..
Not running a full siphon promotes a healthy gas exchange. Which also means u waste c02. But u have to inject more. Plants are actually being circulated more c02 because uve turned it up. It just doesnt accumulate in the water to deadly levels.

Fish dont mind the extra oxygen either
Thats is the number one goal of a sump
The extra bio filtration comes from the added oxygen lvls
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Okay I give up on the co2. I tied a T into the pump and reactor with a ball valve to slow it down. Well there are no longer any bubbles in the tank...but there isn't any freaking co2 in there either. I've had it on all day at about 6000 bps okay probably more around 10-15 bps (to fast to count) and the drop checker is barely showing any decrease in blue. It seemed that when the co2 wasn't difusing all the way it was doing more. WTF is wrong?

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Can someone experienced with sumps maybe help me out a little? I have been doing a lot of online searches on making DIY sump boxes and I get these elaborate plans that involve electric saws and welding cement.

I have the opportunity to buy a used tank that is already set up for a sump. It has the overflow box and I believe it is drilled. It was a reef tank, but I will be using it for freshwater.

It comes with the tank(that has the overflow box), stand and hood with lights. I need to get a pump, whatever tubing is used, and then the tank underneath. The tank is 58 gallons, so I was thinking a 20-25 gallon sump.

This may be a stupid question . . . but why can't I just use a walmart storage bin then add filtration from there?

I have no clue what I am doing. What kind of pump do I need? How many gallons per hour for the 58 gallons?

If someone could either link me to some info, or make me a list of what parts I need to buy to make this into a useable tank, I would be really grateful! thanks
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Would something like this work in my sump . . . 58 gallon tank + 20 gallon sump:

http://www.amazon.com/Tetra-Filtrati...1783420&sr=1-3
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Would something like this work in my sump . . . 58 gallon tank + 20 gallon sump:

http://www.amazon.com/Tetra-Filtrati...1783420&sr=1-3
keep it simple..

Fills on the right, Polly filter, open area holds heater and bio media, the pump runs it back up, no need to over complicate it

No reason at all you can't use walmart storage bins! seen quite a few people use them actually.

Just remember a Sump is extra water container, your just seperating the media so water passes across/ through it, there is many ways to accomplish this

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I'd be happy to take the next pimp spot. I've been using a small DIY sump on my planted tank.
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I just started a small overflow box for my shrimp tank, so I guess I'm back to using a sump. lol.
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Would something like this work in my sump . . . 58 gallon tank + 20 gallon sump:

http://www.amazon.com/Tetra-Filtrati...1783420&sr=1-3

also rio makes great reliable powerheads to use for a sump pump.
i'd reccomend one that can do at least 470 gph after 3-4 feet of head for a 58 gallon

as nwa said. kep the sump simple. design it how u want.if it was my choise. a small section for mechanical filtration. and a good sized area for heating the water and bio filtration
any other areas are practially irrelevant in a planted tank unless u want to make one for an extra pump to run c02 reactors UV etc etc.. those can all be included in one big pump area
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This is almost exactly the same configuration as mine, +1 for simple.
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keep it simple..

Fills on the right, Polly filter, open area holds heater and bio media, the pump runs it back up, no need to over complicate it
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Just remember a Sump is extra water container, your just seperating the media so water passes across/ through it, there is many ways to accomplish this
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