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post #31 of 46 (permalink) Old 07-08-2011, 02:45 PM
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don't try and hyjack our hyjacked thread.

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i'm not trying to say you're wrong for what you purchased but IMO you should have gotten the normal tank reg and adaptor since you're thinking about getting another tank. Once you get a bigger tank you could have just gotten a splitter and ran both tanks off of the #10. Now you're going to have to buy a completely new set up.



with that being said. that is one downfall to a paintball set up. you can really use it on more than one tank, if having more than one tank is your thing. the main reason i decided to go with a tank vice paintball is because i wanted to expand in the future and not have to buy more things. AAAAND if i only have to keep my eye on and fill one tank i'm happier then having to watch two or three. less is best. to add to that, say you have a high light tank and a low light tank. you'll have to fill the co2 at two different times because you're not going to use as much in the low light tank. you could just fill them both but correct me if i'm wrong its a flat rate to fill the tanks. now you're just flushing money down the pooper

I see your point but once I get a new house the tanks are going to be in different areas of the house which pretty much nullifies that option to run a splitter off a large tank. I have two nano tanks both of which could use CO2 (only one now is using it; I want to keep the other one lower maintenance so foregoing CO2 for now) so I know for sure it will always be in use. I'd much rather have spent the $200 to have a top quality regulator to use with the small tank which can be tucked away under a shelf, in a small cabinet, etc than run 40 foot of airline tubing around rooms in my house or run it through walls to reach other rooms.

My large plantd tank will have a larger stand in order to hide a 5# or 10# tank. And as for the maintenance of filling two tanks... with a 20oz paintball tank at 1bps timed 10 hours a day lasting me 9 months it's neither going to break the bank or take up too much time to get it filled. $5-6 and 20 minutes every 9 months isn't a task that's particularily too stressful for me to take on.
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Has anyone tried this:

http://www.amazon.com/Hobart-770626-.../dp/B002VECKSI

I'm not sure exactly how much this regulator steps down the PSI, but it might be safer than the on/off solution currently used by many.

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don't try and hyjack our hyjacked thread.

do you all like google chrome better then IE? i wish there was a way to download it without to try it out and then do a simple uninstall and everything is gone. i hate downloading new software then not liking it so i go to uninstall it and after you do you can still find a bunch of junk files all over your computer
????

what does this have to do with CO2?

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Has anyone tried this:

http://www.amazon.com/Hobart-770626-.../dp/B002VECKSI

I'm not sure exactly how much this regulator steps down the PSI, but it might be safer than the on/off solution currently used by many.
i want the one NatcH has!! :P
the one that makes his unit a cheating unit compared to ours. :P

But i can see where ur going at... i dont know if it would fit our application.. and at that price... MEH! i'd rather get a milwaukee.
The paintball unit is becoming too expensive with a 60 dollar+ regulator.

its like buying a car... do you want to pay up front now.. and get lower interest payments? or do you want to pay little up front now.. and get higher interest payments?
Ultimately... this is the difference between paintball vs regular i think.
Unless your really tight in a spot where a 2.5lb tank wouldn't even fit, or u need to mount the tank sideways.
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????

what does this have to do with CO2?

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i want the one NatcH has!! :P
the one that makes his unit a cheating unit compared to ours. :P

But i can see where ur going at... i dont know if it would fit our application.. and at that price... MEH! i'd rather get a milwaukee.
The paintball unit is becoming too expensive with a 60 dollar+ regulator.

its like buying a car... do you want to pay up front now.. and get lower interest payments? or do you want to pay little up front now.. and get higher interest payments?
Ultimately... this is the difference between paintball vs regular i think.
Unless your really tight in a spot where a 2.5lb tank wouldn't even fit, or u need to mount the tank sideways.
I think the $60 includes both the tank and regulator. So, you are really looking at about $40 for the regulator.

My 40 gallon breeder (and 20 gallon long): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ta07C0y0nk
My 10 gallon with PAR30 LED: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rbms5asKmA
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I think the $60 includes both the tank and regulator. So, you are really looking at about $40 for the regulator.
yeah but you still need the needle valve.. lol...

and at that price.. well the aquatek with a 2.5lb tank doesnt sound that bad even tho you cant set working pressure.
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yeah but you still need the needle valve.. lol...

and at that price.. well the aquatek with a 2.5lb tank doesnt sound that bad even tho you cant set working pressure.
Is the working pressure that big of a deal? I've read that it's stuck at 30 on those...seems having that at a constant would make dialing in the needle valve easier.

Am I crazy?
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Is the working pressure that big of a deal? I've read that it's stuck at 30 on those...seems having that at a constant would make dialing in the needle valve easier.

Am I crazy?
oh yes it is... lol..

ive been playing with the fluval.. and its decient... been playing with a paintball system.. and its tough.. not as easy as a fluval 88g, and most definitely not as easy as a real regulator.

realized it might help make things easier if you added another air valve at the end of your pin valve... so have 2 valves...

The pin valve will act like a regulator and give u working pressure... then you can use the air valve used for air pumps and air stones to fine tune the injection and get a more steady bubble count.
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oh yes it is... lol..

ive been playing with the fluval.. and its decient... been playing with a paintball system.. and its tough.. not as easy as a fluval 88g, and most definitely not as easy as a real regulator.

realized it might help make things easier if you added another air valve at the end of your pin valve... so have 2 valves...

The pin valve will act like a regulator and give u working pressure... then you can use the air valve used for air pumps and air stones to fine tune the injection and get a more steady bubble count.
It might be much easier to adjust bps with a 125 or 150 PSI fixed flow regulator on the paintball bottle rather than just an 800 PSI on/off.

My 40 gallon breeder (and 20 gallon long): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ta07C0y0nk
My 10 gallon with PAR30 LED: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rbms5asKmA
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Here is another option:

http://www.lowes.com/webapp/wcs/stor...r%20J-6901-101

My 40 gallon breeder (and 20 gallon long): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ta07C0y0nk
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I was thinking of a paintball tank instead but the refills for it is already half or more than half the cost of a refill for a 5lb tank...

I already had a regulator so I'd need to spend an additional $19 on the adapter.
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I wouldn't have gone PB myself, but for the space issue. If you have the space, and especially if you already have some of the equipment, I don't understand why you would even consider PB over "regular." :shrug:
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If you want to derail.. then here.. lemme show u why firefox fails as well:


Dang... beats me... but that's 2/3 of my RAM right there. Firefox has gone down the crapper lately. Too bad Chrome still has too many features missing (like viewing image properties...) to be of any use to me.

On topic, I think CO2 systems are a "go big or go home" thing. Just like you wouldn't use a cheap heater prone to bursting, I wouldn't use a cheap system with no real regulator prone to bursting. Too much time and money invested into this hobby to risk it all going down the drain. I'll stick to yeasty coke bottles until I can afford a proper setup. I live somewhere where tanks, refills, and parts don't come cheap, and I'd probably have to eat rice for the rest of my life if I got one now.
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Bought a regulator/solenoid/nv setup from a member on here, a CO2->CGA320 adapter and a couple of paintball tanks from Walmart. Haven't looked back sense. No complaints, either. Much easier, more consistent and more precise than the old asa on/off valve+nv (if you can even call that thing one, at least not at 1000psi) ever was. Also good to know that when I upgrade to a bigger tank that I can just remove the adapter and be good to go.
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