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post #211 of 233 (permalink) Old 12-30-2011, 07:02 PM
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Here is an interesting article:

http://www.gizmology.net/dot39.htm

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Refilling non-refillable gas cylinders is dangerous because the metal is stressed to it's maximum, and because the inelasticity of the metal concentrates stress and fatigues the metal.
What is the name of your business? Can you afford the fine? Of course, that is for *propane*, but just sayin.

Now, on the more serious side, you, as a business, should assess your own risks and the risks of your customers. However, if I were in your position, I would not do this.

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Here is an interesting article:

http://www.gizmology.net/dot39.htm

What is the name of your business? Can you afford the fine? Of course, that is for *propane*, but just sayin.
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I build guns that hold 3000 psi of pressure and use these guns for hunting and target shooting... There is no law that says you can not fill up a used co2 cart. I know a bit about high pressures and what it means to be safe..
Like I said before.. No big deal....I was just thinking out loud... .
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I build guns that hold 3000 psi of pressure and use these guns for hunting and target shooting... There is no law that says you can not fill up a used co2 cart. I know a bit about high pressures and what it means to be safe..
Like I said before.. No big deal....I was just thinking out loud... .
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Well, again, it is up to you. I wish you and your customers luck with this.

p.s. Just to be clear, these are the cartridges that you refill?

http://www.pyramydair.com/s/a/Crosma..._CO2_tanks/336

p.p.s. Legality and liability may be different here:

http://www.setexasrecord.com/news/20...l-propane-fire

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Or for $75 get a complete top to bottom paintball setup that will last you 3-4 months with a $5 refill bill a few times a year.

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Then my question is: how come I only get ~7 days out of one Fluval 88 cartridge set at the lowest level running 24/7 on a 12g tank? I did a check leak on the regulator and hoses and they are not leaking.
As an update, I sent email to Fluval Customer Service on the subject. Reply came back 4 days later saying that they are shipping me a new regulator free of charge.

I just might put the 88g set up for sale anyways as it's being replaced buy a 10#.
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Well, again, it is up to you. I wish you and your customers luck with this.

p.s. Just to be clear, these are the cartridges that you refill?

http://www.pyramydair.com/s/a/Crosma..._CO2_tanks/336

p.p.s. Legality and liability may be different here:

http://www.setexasrecord.com/news/20...l-propane-fire
1) Co2 isn't flammable. 2) http://www.navagear.com/2010/01/22/i...eally-illegal/

The case was dismissed, and it doesn't appear that anyone has said what that means.

Don't take the tag off your mattress either.

If you're willing to pay the legal fees, you can sue someone for anything. That in itself does not make them liable.
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1) Co2 isn't flammable. 2) http://www.navagear.com/2010/01/22/i...eally-illegal/

The case was dismissed, and it doesn't appear that anyone has said what that means.

Don't take the tag off your mattress either.

If you're willing to pay the legal fees, you can sue someone for anything. That in itself does not make them liable.
The tag on your matress is for the seller, not you. I hope you know that.

As for liability, if a refilled CO2 cartridge explodes in someone's hand, they are coming after you in court, count on it (and they will probably win).

p.s. The case may have been settled (for an undisclosed sum).

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Been runing it at 4bps for 2 weeks and the 88g tank is almost gone. WTH I'm returning this and getting: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...A34950EJPC3UHN

$80 Solenoid
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Been runing it at 4bps for 2 weeks and the 88g tank is almost gone. WTH I'm returning this and getting: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...A34950EJPC3UHN

$80 Solenoid
That sounds about right at 4 bps. This is really meant for a micro-sized tank at maybe 0.5 bps. This would give 16 weeks with your measurement.

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Been runing it at 4bps for 2 weeks and the 88g tank is almost gone. WTH I'm returning this and getting: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...A34950EJPC3UHN

$80 Solenoid
Check other sources for the Aquatek (eBay...) I payed a bit less for mine. Ships directly from Aquatek as well. Got mine about a year ago, couldn't be happier for what it costs.
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Check other sources for the Aquatek (eBay...) I payed a bit less for mine. Ships directly from Aquatek as well. Got mine about a year ago, couldn't be happier for what it costs.
u know aquatek is a power vendor on this forum.

i wish they would give us the price on e-bay here.

http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/aquatek-california/

It would make more sense also seeing how they wouldnt have to pay ebay broker fee's.
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Drain the tank? Where is all that water going to go? Into the CO2 tank? Fill the drop checker? It may siphon and fill the airline (doubtful) but there's no where for the water to go

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I have noticed that just turning off the CO2 overnight that water fills the tubes either from the tank or from the bubble counter. It gets really close to getting water in valve so I'm gonna get a valve check.

Is the best place to put it between the tank and the bubble counter or the bubble counter and the valve. I assume bubble counter and valve.
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^Hope the picture helps.
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*Picture removed due to deleting old attachments in my control panel - pm for picture if desired.

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i didnt feel like reading through 15 pages, so i'll ask. How well does the fluval diffuser work? Is it a very fine mist, similar to the atomizers, or is it more along the lines of the eBay glass ones?
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