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post #1 of 35 (permalink) Old 11-23-2004, 02:58 PM Thread Starter
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Eheim Surface Extractor

Anyone used an Eheim Surface Extractor? What is it like? Easy to use? Problems? Results?

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I have always thought of getting one Gem but from the research I have done the Eheim seems finicky. I tried the Fluval (under $9) and it worked fantastic with my 2215. I do not have it on now but I am thinking of re-installing it. It is very easy to adjust and actually does such a great job that it does not need to be set for surface skim for very long before cleaning the surface. As with any surface extractor you will want to turn it off during feedings.
I also look forward to any Eheim feedback as well.

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I have used one religously for awhile and love it, its a nice addition/tool in my arsenal..
Once you get use to it, you will never go back. It's well worth the $20+.

Problems=none..keep it clean
Results=outstanding, does what it was designed to do.

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It will only work with 12/16mm tubing (1/2"). If you use the 16/22mm tubing (3/4"), there's really no practical way to hook it up. It also has its own intake strainer built in - there's no way to detach it. So if you use the prefilter module, the surface extractor won't work with it. I'm also not too fond of the fact that there's no specification of this on any of their advertising.
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you coudl always buy a reducer for your 5/8 to hook to 1/2
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If you use the 16/22mm tubing (3/4"), there's really no practical way to hook it up
That is not correct.

I have described the manner of connection for this piece of equipment several times. So many times in fact that I just can't type it in again (at least today ). Gemleggat, do a search and you will find the method (as described by Eheim) as to how to use a surface extractor with the larger tubing. If you can't find it, let me know and I will laboriously re-enter the process for you!

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Do they make slurping noises?

Can the Eheim one be turned 'off'? Not so sure if TeeItUp meant that was only for the Fluval.
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They slurp at times.

You can turn the surface extractor off if it is installed with a T and you add a ball valve.

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Mike - I looked up your post on T'ing the intakes, but yeah, I'm plenty confused now. I'll save Gemleggat the question and be the one to (politely) ask you to laboriously re-enter the process.

If anything, what extra parts are needed?
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Does using a surface extractor render the normal inlet redundant? Or is it in conjuction with the normal one?

I plan to use it with a eheim 2324 with it.

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Got one, but I am not using it at the moment, cause its making a lot of noises with my 2026, but it worked great with my older filter.

To attach it to the 3/4" tubing, you just have to remove the piece of pipe that its used to attach it to the 1/2" tubing and connect the 3/4" directly to the extractor main body.

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I've never seen one in my LFS only online, Id like a good pic if anyones got one.

Eheim Pimp No 246 Eheim 2324 Thermo
Remember we dont keep fish or plants, we keep the water they live in......

10gal, 48 watts CF, Co2 with PH controller. Under substrate heating.

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Got one, but I am not using it at the moment, cause its making a lot of noises with my 2026, but it worked great with my older filter.

To attach it to the 3/4" tubing, you just have to remove the piece of pipe that its used to attach it to the 1/2" tubing and connect the 3/4" directly to the extractor main body.
I believe Mike said T'ing the extractor to the original inlet is essential for any filter larger then the 2213. If not, it will make a lot of noise - as you experience with your 2026.
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Its definitly a great unit, but when i had it, my otos kept getting stuck in the skimmer. They would swim in looking for food and get stuck since they cant swim back out of it. Ive been lucky enough to have saved them...so i stopped using it.
The return tube is height adjustable- depending on water level, and the actuall surface skimmer swivels/floats with the water level.
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i have a 2028 and the extractor tee'd off of it.
it dosn't make any slurping i can hear, but i also have it only doing 100 gph.
I would highly recomend one to any one that wants the top of there water crystal clear .
i can take a picture of it in action once my tank is finished filling. (maybe by 10 pm PST ... ro/di water is a slow process, i think i need to get another 110 gpd unit...)

i have 10 oto's in my tank and none have ventured into the intake of the unit, could just be luck, but i don't know.

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