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post #1 of 44 (permalink) Old 12-04-2008, 11:37 PM Thread Starter
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how do you get rid of scuds?

I have a tank that has yellow shrimps in and I noticed 2 days ago that there are a whole mess of scuds climbing all around the substrait (plain aquarium rocks). I took all the plants out and carefully inspected them and placed them in a seprate container and then fished out all the shrimps. I then took the rocks and placed them in very hot water for 30 minutes and cleaned the aquarium down. I put everything back together and grabbed water from another tank - but darn it! I still saw a few still climbing around. The yellow shrimps are in a breeding tank sitting in another tank until I can figure out how to get rid of them suckers. Any suggestions? Lucky for me, this is a 2 gal tank that I am working with.
Another question, Would moss and HC survive a bleach dip?


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they are probably hiding in the gravel so i doubt you could remove them without destroying your biological filter. Why would you want to remove them? HC probably won't do well with bleach, moss is usually ok if its a quick dip.
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I've read that they do attack baby shrimps. Besides, they are kinda creepy to me.
I did take all the gravel and placed it into very hot water - trying to kill them. I think that I might have missed quite a few when I pulled the plants out. Either that, or hot water will not kill them (superbugs?). I was going to bleach dip the plants before doing this again. I guess that the moss and hc will have to be placed in a separate container until I can determine if they are infected or not. Do you think bleach dipping the other plants (crypts) will kill them? And should I boil the substrait this time around? or just get all new substrait?
My biological filter is already shot to heck. So I am basically starting from scratch again. Lucky for me, I have only 21 yellow shrimps, so having them in a breeder net should be ok for a few weeks (I hope), just until I can cycle the 2 gal tank.


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or put the shrimp in the net for a few days and buy some fish. Fish will eat them .
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a gravel vac would get a lot of them. You could also take out the plants and freeze the rest of the tank w/o h2o or shrimp so you won't kill off the bacteria and kill the scuds. the vac the bodies out after thawing. You should also give the plants a 3% bleach solution dip to kill of any remaining scuds on those too.
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I did take all the gravel and placed it into very hot water - trying to kill them. I think that I might have missed quite a few when I pulled the plants out
Doing so will kill all of the beneficial bacteria, which means you'll have to "mini-cycle" all over again (assuming you still have bacteria in the filter).

I'd try to siphon as much of the gravel as you can to try and get rid of them.

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wow, all this hassle to accomplish such an easy task! First get the tank recycled and then add half a dozen neon tetras for a week. Whala.

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wow, all this hassle to accomplish such an easy task! First get the tank recycled and then add half a dozen neon tetras for a week. Whala.

Great idea but then I'm stuck with the fish when they accomplished their task. I did have a betta in the tank before the shrimps and apparently the betta did not take care of the scuds. I had moved him to the bigger tank (55 gal planted) when the yellow shrimps came in. There were no scuds with the shrimps so it leaves me to believe that they came with one of the plants (crypts, HC, mosses). The betta should of taken care of the scud but apparently he did not.

I have taken the tank and drained it and stuck it outside. It is currently 6 degrees outside (wind chill -2). I think that it should freeze pretty good in this temp. The plants in the mean time have all been dipped in bleach solution and the moss and HC are in a jar for QT.
I will have to take one of my mollies and stick it into this tank to cycle it all over again (he's not going to like the smaller tank). Hopefully this will all take care of my problem with scuds. I think that it came with some of my mosses because the crypts were dipped before going into the tank. The HC are so small, I don't think that I could miss a scud on those plants. The moss was the only thing that I threw in as a clump.


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so has anyone actually seen the scuds eat baby shrimp or is this another theory thats out there?
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? I don't get it.
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