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post #1 of 25 (permalink) Old 07-15-2014, 11:47 PM Thread Starter
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Bloody Mary Shrimp

My experience with Bloody Mary Shrimp. Good and Bad!

Iíve been breeding these shrimp for a couple of months. My original 10 shrimp were from Shrimpusa. I currently have a couple of hundred in the tank that I can see.

Disclaimer: the original 10 BM are the only shrimp in the group, shrimp were not mix with my old PFR strain. I donít have any other neo shrimp other than the BM.

My first impression of the shrimp out of the box was that they had very good color. I became more impressed after keeping them for a while. I was amazed with the shrimp because some shrimp have the potential to keep changing color until the shrimp turn maroon/black. The pigmentation and saturation in color exceeds my old PFR strain, which I thought was impossible.

You can spot a BM at a very young age around 1-1.5 cm in size. They have an orange-red glow/transparency (tissue color). Like any other neo, the color deepens and fills in with age and each breeding event. Culling the shrimp is pain. I cull about 50% of the shrimp. Yes, I am very picky! The culled shrimp can be almost clear, to a red that doesnít quite fill in. There are orange shrimp with red veins/strips, I would select for them, but I donít have room for this project.

If I knew what I know now, I would have probably not invested in this project because of the culling. Are the shrimp worth the higher price tag? I guess since the reject rate is so high. I like the look of the shrimp, but there is way too much work involved. Iíll probably keep them for a couple of months get bored and pick a more stable neo strain.

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Those are the culls? Doesn't seem like a pure strain. Could be wrong here though, but havn't had BM spit out anything as transparent. Or that brown/black shrimp.

Definitely love the colors on these guys, got one male who is so intense in dark red and seems like it has some black on it.

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What do you do with the culls?
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Those are the culls? Doesn't seem like a pure strain. Could be wrong here though, but havn't had BM spit out anything as transparent. Or that brown/black shrimp.

Definitely love the colors on these guys, got one male who is so intense in dark red and seems like it has some black on it.
I don't think there is a pure strain of these shrimp. The black shrimp was red. I have a couple that are turning red, maroon, to black. The transparent ones are all from my original 10, no indication that they were not Bloody Mary.

The male you have will probably turn black with time.

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I woulda took the culls
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Im with you Jimko. I get oranges, red stripes and dark ones also. Lots of culling to stay pretty.
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I am new to shrimp keeping so excuse my ignorance, but what is PFR?
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Good write up jimmy. My hunch was correct about bloody marry shrimps. I believe when the gene was isolate, the cull rate was much higher than 50%. As with anything, their genes will improve and stabilize. Seems like they were a little rushed, but with expensive secrets like these guys, it's always better to enter the market sooner rather than later.

Sell me some of your PFR. My colony complete died out. I've been in the market for some PFR. I got some from Tony from SfBaaps before he moved back to LA. He had great PFR but I'm having trouble contacting him on SfBaaps.
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All my PFR have vanished. I had to X them out when I moved.

Only have TT, BM, and PRL at the moment.



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Great write up! Jimmy your words mirror my results and seeing with my colony as well. needs major culling but the good ones are amazing!

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If BM does not breed true/pure strain. As personal thoughts, I would rather just keep PFR. to save the extra works
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PFR dont really breed true either. not they breed allot more true than these

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I agreed, but it much better the BM breeds isn't it?
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I agree. Culling work has to be done indeed to keep the solid red bloody mary strain going.. I haven't gotten any black neo mutations yet, not even a single one, but nice opinions on bloody maries.

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