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Snail ratio?

I have a question concerning snails. I wasn't interested in obtaining any at first, but I realized there is a variety of benefits that come with keeping snails. I was thinking about having several Malaysian Trumpet Snails so that they can help clean the tank and aerate the soil/substrate. I have heard about snail population explosions, which is specifically what I would like to avoid. I heard about Assassin Snails being used to address this issue. However, I don't want them to take over as well!

I'm a beginner when it comes to fish keeping, in fact the tank I am planning on keeping them (a 25gal Planted with Dirt/Eco Complete) hasn't even been set up yet. This is just for once I get things up and running. So, is there a golden ratio where I can keep both species in the tank without one population exploding or totally dying off? (i.e 1 Assasin Snail per 5 MTS )?
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Assassins snails go after ramshorn and pond snails first, then MTS....which breed significantly faster than Assassins.....which contrary to popular belief DO breed. I've sold hundreds over a period of 6months.

Toss in your MTS snails and give them a couple weeks to establish, then toss in 2-4 assassins....things should balance out on their own, and if they dont, there's always someone around willing to buy a few assassins.

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Assassins snails go after ramshorn and pond snails first, then MTS....which breed significantly faster than Assassins.....which contrary to popular belief DO breed. I've sold hundreds over a period of 6months.

Toss in your MTS snails and give them a couple weeks to establish, then toss in 2-4 assassins....things should balance out on their own, and if they dont, there's always someone around willing to buy a few assassins.
Thanks for the input! Are MTS the best choice though for cleanup? I've heard they're only so-so when it comes to eating algae/waste. Also, should I be worried about bioload concerning snails? (Or other invertebrates in general)
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I like shrimp as cleaners Mts are good too and aerate the substrate nicely. So do assassins for that matter.

As far as bioload goes, snails poop allot but it shouldn't be a problem unless a bunch die and rot or you get totally overrun. Even then, they're small.

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I like shrimp as cleaners Mts are good too and aerate the substrate nicely. So do assassins for that matter.

As far as bioload goes, snails poop allot but it shouldn't be a problem unless a bunch die and rot or you get totally overrun. Even then, they're small.

what shrimp are you using as cleaners? RCS or Amanos or just any of them in general?
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snowballs, cherries, chocolates, blue pearls...all work well.(in numbers)

Amano's are amazing as well.

So I guess the answer is both.

However, I do appreciate the green spot algae eating ability of nerite snails, so I have them in a few tanks without assassins.

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