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post #1 of 36 (permalink) Old 07-02-2013, 03:49 PM Thread Starter
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Alright, I just came into a little money. I Have just purchased/In amazon shopping cart for sure buying:

  • TDS Meter
    • Filter Brush
  • GH/KH API test
  • Flourite Sand


Question: I want to order everything I can for shrimp in one shot to save on the shipping if I can. I am unsure about TDS, GH/Kh and how to raise it. I can lower it using RO water into tap, I live in Florida and I know I have hard water. (When my fish get tired of swimming they go for a walk!) So, What should I need? My Ph is 7.4. So, I know I won't need to raise it.
I want to keep some kind of tigers. Tigers, TT, or Something in the Caridina family with my Neos. I know the parameters are stable, They are breeding and molting normally.



So I guess I need to know Which product to use for

How to raise TDS?

How to raise Gh/Kh?
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post #2 of 36 (permalink) Old 07-02-2013, 04:23 PM
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Don't worry about pH - just focus on hardness. Once you have a GH/KH test kit, then you'll have a feel for where you are.

If you want to keep something other than Neos, you'll definitely need to know more about your hardness.

TDS will likely be where you need it to be based on the products you use if you're remineralizing RO/DI water. If you use RO water for Neos, you'll want to use something like Kent R/O Right, Seachem Equilibrium or Shrimp Mineral GH/KH+.

If you have a Tractor Supply nearby, you could use Black Diamond blasting grit ($8 for 50lbs) instead of Flourite Sand - that could save you some $.
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Sorry, I guess I didn't put that I am currently using tap with Prime. I can Get Cheap RO water near my house if need be. I really only listed Flourite sand because I am putting it in another tank and 1 bag will do me with a cap.
I was just wondering if there was something like an all in one, or something I could put on the list I know I'll use.

I really was just trying to order anything you think I could use for the raising of the TDs and the Gh/kh.

I was thinking of blasting grit, But I have sweet little cories!! And I would be afraid for their barbels and tummies!!

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Nah, it won't harm your Cories. Tons of us keep them with Black Diamond. I even have Corydoras habrosus breeding on it (and with pool filter sand).

If you need to raise hardness for Neos for some reason, you could try Kent R/O Right or Seachem Equilibrium. They're both cheap and would suffice. They're a bit dirty but you can't beat the price. If you want something specialized for shrimp, Shrimp Mineral GH/KH+ from Salty Shrimp is my favorite.

Should you have money left over, consider getting other things like a Fluval telescoping shrimp net. They're my favorite cheapies and are great for the average hobbyist. Battery-powered air pumps (the cheap ones) are great to have in the event of a power failure. They can even be connected to small sponge filters. Cooling fans are always great to have. Pre-filter sponges, depending upon your setup. A spare HOB.
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What does dirty mean? How do you raise TDS? What is TDS? I know it means Total dissolved solids. But that is about it. GH/KH is really important. Which one controls Molts and shell development?

I have been keeping my eye out for shrimp stuff in the for sale section for stuff people are getting rid of. I have a brine shrimp net for now. But I am sure others might be getting rid of stuff all the time. It just a matter of waiting

My thought about ordering something along with the Gh/Kh test, is What if I do the test once I get it in the mail. Then realize I need a Gh/Kh raiser or Lower, then have to wait for it to come. Feeling like a bad shrimp mom the whole time.

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First thing: Go read the shrimp sticky. Then read it again.

TDS is a combination of everything dissolved in your water. GH, KH, et al.

You should not try raising GH/KH or TDS until you know what your tap water currently sits at and what your tank currently sits at. If your Neos are doing well, you likely don't need to bother with anything.

As long as you have a GH of 5-6 at a minimum, your shrimp will be fine.
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Do you have any preference on Tigers? Or any of the Caridina Shrimp? I would like to add another kind of shrimp. My Neos, I know are doing Ok. I just have heard Tigers can be more sensitive and wanted to be prepared. Thats the main reason why I wanted to get all this stuff.

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http://shrimpkeeping.com/water-params/

Find out what your parameters are using the API gH and kH Test Kit you are ordering.

Then find a shrimp that can work within the range of your Neos using the link above. Neos have a larger parameter range than other species of shrimp, so if you really want another shrimp species like Caridina then meet the parameters for both shrimp halfway.

But, it would make your life easier if you don't tweek your parameters and just off the bat get a shrimp that works with Neo parameters directly.

And if you want to be prepared read the sticky XD
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That link was really helpful!! I am ordering tonight and will post once I get the test kit and do a test. Here is what I am thinking:
Test shrimp tank 1
Test Shrimp tank 2
Test Straight out of the tap
Test gassed off for 24 hours.

Sound like a good plan?
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No need to worry about allowing water to gas off. You're just testing for hardness.
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Thanks! I have ordered supplies and they will be here Mon or Friday. (just ordered an hour ago) Then I will see about testing and all the fun stuff you guys do! Wish me LUCK! I will post once the results are in.
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I just tested the TDS, it was at 450! Wow, I had no idea. I tested my tap, it was 250-287 I think. I pretty much ran around the house and tested every source of water I had! LOL! My husband thinks I am nuts!!
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Ha! Welcome to the world of having a TDS meter.

Really opens one's eyes to the complexity of water quality.
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Yes it really opens eyes to what solids are in your water...... I did the same thing when I got mine tested all mine took it to all my friends and parents


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I just started vacuuming, a lot of poop has settled to the bottom of the tank.The poop blended so well into the sand, I didn't see it. I am going to do gradual vacuuming of the Sand (over a week), to try to lower it. I didn't realize the little guys pooped so much!
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