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post #16 of 44 (permalink) Old 06-15-2013, 09:35 AM Thread Starter
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I meant mount the stand to the wall. I tried putting my tank on it whe it was flush against the wall. And it was still pretty wobbly, and I can't have it fall on my daughter, or I would be a dead man.

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post #17 of 44 (permalink) Old 06-15-2013, 09:36 AM
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um i was judging based off the second picture. but yea you got most of what i was saying. so the stem plants behind the wood. and the crypt in the right corner. maybe put the crypt behind the tiger lily? its a bit of a large plants that looks like it might stay low i dont know how those grow out. but the crypt in back of it would be cool since it's gonna grow taller.put the moss in the middle/ empty area from the scape you should have an empty ish middle where you could put the mosses. but if you'd like, you can also put the glosso in it. as for planting the stems, if you have tweezers try planting them into the substrate at an angle rather than straight down. this makes it harder for them to float up.
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I'm going to look at my tank again tomorrow when I have time to figure out how I'm going to do that. I understand what your saying and I have it all in my head, but I need to thin out my substrate in some parts for it to work. Maybe where the moss is I can thin out, I might end up cutting individual plants off of the lily to sell. They can and do grow very well without the bulb. It just to bulky and the shrimp never really seem to go to it vy often. Unless there is shrimplets in there haha.

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Up aqua shrimp sand or fluval shrimp stratum?

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Up aqua shrimp sand or fluval shrimp stratum?
I've use Up Aqua, Azoo Plant Grower, and Ada Aquasoil. Is your main goal of getting soil for plants? Then go with Azoo Plant Grower.

For shrimp I prefer Up Aqua over ADA because it's so clean and very nice looking. I set it up within a day and had CRS CBS in there breeding already. ADA you would have to wait 2-4 weeks and it's a mess if you disturb your soil later.

P.S. I never use Fluval soil so no comment on that. I hear some good and some bad reviews about it.

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My goal is to be beneficial for both plants and shrimp

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My goal is to be beneficial for both plants and shrimp
Your close to SF you can get ADA but it take weeks to put live stocks in. I would go with Azoo Plant Grower. $30 a bag in Neptune Aquatic in Milpitas. Can fill 10g up to 3 inches.
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Fluval stratum is alright. It's not the greatest and I only have one tank which is a 2.5 with stratum... Never added shrimp yet cuz there's a guppy helping me cycle it... But yeah my plants seem happy. But one issue I noticed da soil turns kinda in to mud sand after a loooooong time.


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What about the up aqua shrimp sand? Would that be both beneficial for shrimp and plants?

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I want something that also want breakdown to easily over a long period of time.

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I want something that also want breakdown to easily over a long period of time.
You mean you want something that don't break down easily? Go with Azoo Plant Grower. Easy to use and can put in live stock within a day.
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And it's shrimp safe?

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i have up aqua soil and i really like it. its also the most reasonable priced i have seen. im pretty sure i had a ammonia spike when i first setup the tank just like with ada....

i also used the fluval stratum and its also good. not as good as UP so id get them if possible. the stratum doent have as many nutrients and is lighter then the UP soil so it wont hold plants as well. also gets vacuumed up easier during cleaning.

either way you will love the results of any of the soils compared to what you have.

EDIT.. the problem with the soil and some shrimp is the soils will lower ph. some shrimp might not like the lower ph. also if your tap's ph is high you will get ph swings when you do water changes. fish and most inverts can handle a ph swing but some might not handle it so well. if you dont want a ph swing then you will need a RO unit.

example.. my ph is 7.8 and kh is 3. after adding the soil my ph is 6.6 and hk is 0. i also use co2 so during the day my ph will drop to 5.8 then do a 50% water change and it will jump to 6.4 or so... im just saying that is a lot of ph swings for sensitive shrimp. all my fish seem to be fine with it though.

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Yes. Look at my picture on 1st page. I keep PFR and amano in there.
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Azoo has no ammonia spike?

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