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post #16 of 49 (permalink) Old 03-19-2013, 06:45 PM Thread Starter
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Well, there's some challenges there that I'm not ready to undertake. The carcinus grows to 12" large and would really need a pond. The ohione needs saltwater as larvae and freshwater as adults.

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Too bad the ohione needs saltwater. I can see developing some interesting color strain from that guy.

Might as well go for sulawesi shrimps before they go endangered.

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I ADORE sulawesi, and have plans to get more.

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The Ohio shrimp looks cool. Shame it's saltwater.

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Re: Extinct or endangered?

Naw, the link says it's a freshwater shrimp. Used as bait.

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Yepper. The adults are, but the larvae are salt. Think ghost shrimp.

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What about just trying to breed shrimp that are hard to breed like amanos?
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Well, to be honest, I'm not out to breed hard to breed shrimp necessarily. Amanos are pretty common and as far as I know will continue for a long time to come.

I guess I'm thinking that there are some animals that are really functionally extinct in the wild that have only been kept around through the hands of hobbyists. Ie. Syrian hamsters, etc.

There are already species of shrimp that are extinct. Perhaps we can make some small form of impact as keepers of shrimp to keep another species going- even if in an artificial environment.

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It's too bad Syncaris pacifica is federally listed. It looks like one that would be promising to try.

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Kentucky blind cave shrimp.

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Now that would be a very real possibility if I could get permission. It is listed as endangered though and if I were to try to obtain these without proper permits, I would be facing $50,000 or imprisonment for one year.

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I wrote the KY govt about where to obtain a permit to breed these, so we'll see what happens. Honestly I have no hope, but I've been surprised before. LOL

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I wish you the best of luck. It would be an interesting set up.

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Heard back from KY. They like the idea of captive propagation for shrimp because they are so undervalued by society,

"... At this point, however, I would not recommend that you spend much (or any) time developing a captive propagation plan [for KY Blind Shrimp], because it will take us and MCNP some time to gather the genetic, population, habitat, threat, and other data associated with the KY cave shrimp project. "

I *did* get info on obtaining permits though: http://www.fws.gov/permits/

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Here's a nice list of species that are extinct in the wild, persisting thanks only to captive efforts...no shrimp though. The IUCN Red List shows 16 species of decapods that are threatened, near threatened, or at least data deficient, including some shrimp. Many are cave dwellers. 7 are in North America, but as you saw, the government is not real keen on captive intervention, especially from the public. But other governments might be less stringent. You'd still have to get import permits to get them into the US though. Not a huge problem, pet importers do it all the time, just another hoop. In fact, if you find a species you like, the easiest way to get it might just be to find a pet dealer who works in that area and pay them to bring them in through existing channels/permits. Many of the fish on that 1st list are in private collections, so it is possible.
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