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So, back to the topic. Super Red Crystal was available a few months ago, anyone got some and bred them? What's the percentage of the offsping are as nice?
The difference (I think) between super reds and grade c is that super reds are bred for more and more red coverage from higher quality shrimp. Grade C is...well...not.

Also breeders of super reds split into two different camps. One went the way of white mask and white tail only, the other wanted white stripes on the back, too.

I don't have them, however I can't help think a lot of work could have been saved by breeding grade c's to be more and more opaque.

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I am currently keeping 8 C/B grade shrimps in my tank. I have kept them for about 2 weeks but still no luck in getting them to reproduce.... Have any tips in getting them to breed? Thanks.
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I am currently keeping 8 C/B grade shrimps in my tank. I have kept them for about 2 weeks but still no luck in getting them to reproduce.... Have any tips in getting them to breed? Thanks.
If you don't see saddles, I would feed a bit of protein.
If you do see saddles, then I would do a water change to try and induce molting.
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I am currently keeping 8 C/B grade shrimps in my tank. I have kept them for about 2 weeks but still no luck in getting them to reproduce.... Have any tips in getting them to breed? Thanks.
2 weeks is no where near enough time for shrimp to get settled in and start breeding yet.

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Sometimes it takes months before shrimp feel "at home."

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2 weeks is no where near enough time for shrimp to get settled in and start breeding yet.
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Sometimes it takes months before shrimp feel "at home."

Totally agree. You may get lucky that new shrimps start breeding right away but most often that's not the case. Because of this, I recommend getting shrimps about 3 months old and when they are matured they are also used to your water. Breeding is much better that way.

That said, I got 10 female bee shrimps from a breeder about a month ago, I then found out 1 may be a male so I separated that guy, 8 out of the other 9 are berried, actually 5 of them got berried within two weeks. But I consider that just luck. They are all new adult though so easier to adopt. Most of the adult shrimps (other than A/S CRS) take at least 2 months before breeding steadily.
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A little update,
It's been two and a half weeks since I first saw them berried.



Can't wait for the babies!

Any suggestion to keep future generation C grade? Just breed the C grade babies together?
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yah don't backcross. Do a F1x F1 cross and see what happens.
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Those are SO PRETTY!!! Even better than SSS imo!!!

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I saw a B grade at a LFS the other day (they have mixed grade CRS in one tank) but I've never seen a C grade before. Nice looking shrimp.

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yah don't backcross. Do a F1x F1 cross and see what happens.
I respectfully disagree.

If you have grade c males, definately cross back. By back crossing to the parentage that has the original modifiers, you help to solidify the grade c coloration in the strain.

F1s can also be crossed, but will take a longer time due to different modifiers introduced from "higher" grades.

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I respectfully disagree.

If you have grade c males, definately cross back. By back crossing to the parentage that has the original modifiers, you help to solidify the grade c coloration in the strain.

F1s can also be crossed, but will take a longer time due to different modifiers introduced from "higher" grades.
Out of curiosity, how long would it take for the pattern to "stabilize" would you say? If he sold it to us, it would help stabilize the strain right? Since there is more population with the C grades. Together, we will bring back the C grade population!

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Thanks for the tips guys!

Anywhoo 3am wide awake... Why I haven't done this earlier!!
Going to leech all the ammonia and build up biofilm in the mean time



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