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After reading this thread, I feel very thankful that I only have one single scud.


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After reading this thread, I feel very thankful that I only have one single scud.
Kill it ASAP just to be sure.
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The nightmare begins with one...... Haste makes waste

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post #49 of 63 (permalink) Old 12-31-2012, 01:52 AM
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what size difference is between them??? actually how big is a scud in general??? sorry for all the questions but there is no pictures or size reference that I can find..also ,can you easily see scuds antenea and legs with normal eyesight....seed shrimp are far too small to see any of their parts..
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Seed shrimp are like little dots, can barely see them. Scuds look like potato bugs.

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Hey man, keep an eye on your filter too much algafix will kill your bio filter as well


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post #51 of 63 (permalink) Old 12-31-2012, 04:47 AM
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You are going to need active carbon to get rid of the algae fix when you are happy happy happy that al the vermin are gone. You might need to run two or more loads of carbon.

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post pics of the mass kill of. it sucks you have to kill every thing but it would be cool to see
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yeah...actually...I don't need to see that.

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yeah...actually...I don't need to see that.
Had no clue how to respond to that message, so I'm glad you did. That's disturbed..

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When I had an infestation of the blasted scruds, I threw my betta in there for 3 months, lost a few baby shrimp, but the adults are okay and my betta devastated my scruds. Haven't seen one since the betta was removed : )

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no massacre photos please. i'm sort of adverse to any "scudicide" photos

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I can confirm that AlgaeFix will kill inverts. I scooped out a few scuds and shrimp. Put them in a cup and poured two drops of this stuff....everything is dead 1 hour later. Obviously I did a lower concentration for the tank so it might take a few days before things start dying off.
Do not stop treating the tank, I treated the 2-3 day to see, it keeps on killing.

Plants are not effected nor fish.

I got about 20% kill, then around 50-70% with RCS. Amano's are tougher, but crawl out.

I never did get 100% kill.

Which is sort of what you need.

Might try a few more days of dosing. But that's a Grey area as far as plants and fish, they seem fine with 3 continuous days.

Snails? They are immortal. Unless you start killing fish and plants.

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You are going to need active carbon to get rid of the algae fix when you are happy happy happy that al the vermin are gone. You might need to run two or more loads of carbon.
No, you do not, it binds rapidly to soil/organic matter, thus is already rendered non toxic rapidly, then bacteria break it down.

If the pesticide is bound to organic matter, it cannot target the shrimp, algae etc.

You can do a large water change after, this is par for the treatments for algae, any large change etc. Unlike say Copper, it cannot re release back into the tank later on, since the active ingredient is now broken down. Cooper would require a nuke reactor to "decompose" into something non toxic, this needs bound or removed. Algaefix does not. Chemical pesticides that persist in the water are bad, like atrazine. You want things that bind or break down into non toxic by products relatively fast.

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Thanks Tom. I was actually wondering how long I should be dosing this stuff. Glad you were able to clarify all my question marks.
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post #60 of 63 (permalink) Old 01-01-2013, 12:50 AM
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I hate scuds. Got them in my 20g ... I let all the CRS and everything in that tank die. Then I threw out the whole tank. Such a shame too because they were really high grade CRS and had a lot of nice plants in that tank.

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