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You're just creating resistant bacteria with less than full doses.
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Actually, your pH is actually on the low side for RCS. Also, I can't believe that no one noticed the GH/KH. 30 ppm of GH/17.9 = 1.67 degrees of hardness. 40 ppm of KH/17.9 = 2.23 degrees of carbonate hardness. 30 + 40 = 70, which is super low TDS. I bet it's a molting issue. You should be aiming for the 200ish range, optimally.
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Actually, your pH is actually on the low side for RCS. Also, I can't believe that no one noticed the GH/KH. 30 ppm of GH/17.9 = 1.67 degrees of hardness. 40 ppm of KH/17.9 = 2.23 degrees of carbonate hardness. 30 + 40 = 70, which is super low TDS. I bet it's a molting issue. You should be aiming for the 200ish range, optimally.
Oh?

Lemme check TDS.

Out of the tap last week it was 148, and in the tank before water change was 188.

After water change it was 138 bc I put partly ZeroWater filtered water treated with Prime.
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Actually, your pH is actually on the low side for RCS. Also, I can't believe that no one noticed the GH/KH. 30 ppm of GH/17.9 = 1.67 degrees of hardness. 40 ppm of KH/17.9 = 2.23 degrees of carbonate hardness. 30 + 40 = 70, which is super low TDS. I bet it's a molting issue. You should be aiming for the 200ish range, optimally.
TDS = 164

My Amanos have been molting fine.

I have been feeding Jake's with extra calcium.

So maybe it's the new shrimpies' first molt in this tank and they're not used to parameters?

The first batch of PFRs have been here for about a month, no known deaths.
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If you've been feeding calcium then they shouldn't have a problem molting, but I still think you should raise the GH a little, regardless if that's the problem or not.

If fenben doesn't work for you I'd try No-Planaria. It kills both planaria and hydra. Also I overdosed it by 25% and my shrimps were A-OK, so don't worry about dosing too much.
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If you've been feeding calcium then they shouldn't have a problem molting, but I still think you should raise the GH a little, regardless if that's the problem or not.

If fenben doesn't work for you I'd try No-Planaria. It kills both planaria and hydra. Also I overdosed it by 25% and my shrimps were A-OK, so don't worry about dosing too much.
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Sorry, clay? What do you mean by that?
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Eta Tuesday per the nice lady at the post office.

If it's planaria or hydra, here should be some signs of them in the tank. Jakes veggie sticks with calcium would work provided they digest it. Often times at feedings I will feed two different types of food. There's no guarantee they all get the same portion or foods at any given time.

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Eta Tuesday per the nice lady at the post office.

If it's planaria or hydra, here should be some signs of them in the tank. Jakes veggie sticks with calcium would work provided they digest it. Often times at feedings I will feed two different types of food. There's no guarantee they all get the same portion or foods at any given time.
I have seen 1-3 hydra before and 1-3 planaria before. They come and go on the glass.

Thanks for the clay! Great RAOK.

I feel inadequate and sad. Am kicking myself for not FenBenning last week as I'd planned.

What do you think about the bettaFix/Melafix re: possible bacterial issue?

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Sorry, clay? What do you mean by that?
Montmarillate clay as remineralize to prevent failed molts.
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I second somewhatshocked! Marycen-2 is the best for bacterial infections. Use it and dose melafix. It wont hurt anything if you dont have anything

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Ahh okay thanks.
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I was able to smoosh hydras with a napkin when I had them in my cylinder bowl. Awful when you see them try to sting the shrimp that unknowingly pass by. If not for that, I would have let them be. Never had planaria though they have been know to kill off entire shrimp tanks when left unchecked. Best to dose per jakes recommendation. Fingers and toes crossed for ya,

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I was able to smoosh hydras with a napkin when I had them in my cylinder bowl. Awful when you see them try to sting the shrimp that unknowingly pass by. If not for that, I would have let them be. Never had planaria though they have been know to kill off entire shrimp tanks when left unchecked. Best to dose per jakes recommendation. Fingers and toes crossed for ya,
Thanks!

Oh do planaria eat babies or eggs?

They seem so slow.
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I was able to smoosh hydras with a napkin when I had them in my cylinder bowl. Awful when you see them try to sting the shrimp that unknowingly pass by. If not for that, I would have let them be. Never had planaria though they have been know to kill off entire shrimp tanks when left unchecked. Best to dose per jakes recommendation. Fingers and toes crossed for ya,
I am kicking myself for not FenBenning last week.

Poor shrimpies.
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I was able to smoosh hydras with a napkin when I had them in my cylinder bowl. Awful when you see them try to sting the shrimp that unknowingly pass by. If not for that, I would have let them be. Never had planaria though they have been know to kill off entire shrimp tanks when left unchecked. Best to dose per jakes recommendation. Fingers and toes crossed for ya,
Lol I don't even put my bare hands in the tank anymore knowing there's icky nasty nematodes in my tank. So I put on my yellow gloves and pray that no tank water gets in them.
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