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Indian almond leave ?

I'm getting some almond leaves for my CRS / yellow neo shrimp tank. My question is how many should I put into the tank. It is a 20 gallon and I would guess there is about 75-100 shrimp in there. Thanks in advance. I also have a huge chunk of cholla wood in there as well as java moss and guppy grass.
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You can just put one in at a time, and then add a second when the first is almost gone. That way it soaks for a while before the first one is compltely eaten. If you presoak them in a windowsill they will not release as much tannins into the tank and will already have a biofilm when you put them in the tank.

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I add 3/4 of a large one to my 7 gallon tank. I boil it first for 5 mins to release some of the tannins and soften it up a bit. It then goes in the tank and takes at least a week before it really softens enough for them to start eating it.
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You can just put one in at a time, and then add a second when the first is almost gone. That way it soaks for a while before the first one is compltely eaten. If you presoak them in a windowsill they will not release as much tannins into the tank and will already have a biofilm when you put them in the tank.
What is better? Adding one at a time or, pre soak them to benefit from the biofilm
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i have 3 in my tanks at all times. One is new, still floating, the other is starting to decay, and one is only the leave veins left. I put a new leaf in every 2 weeks and pull out the oldest one at the same time. this way you always have a few leaves in different decomposition stages.
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Depending on how tannin-rich you want your water to be, I've found a good range for my 250g to be 2-3 leaves every two weeks. I would advise against using more than 2 leaves per 50-75g, as there is no need for that much tannin and it'd just go to waste.

I don't know much about the benefits of having that biofilm ready to go before you introduce the leaves, but I can tell you that boiling the leaf to reduce the tannin is counterproductive; as that is what you are putting the leaf in the first place for.
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Personally, with shrimp I am going for the biofilm for food rather than tannins. I think the tannins are good but that is not why I use IALs.

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depending on the quality and source of your IAL, start with one and leave it for several days. Large higher quality leaves may take longer to break down but will last longer and release tannins for longer than lower grades which often will get skeletonized soon after the shrimp and snails start work on it.

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Personally, with shrimp I am going for the biofilm for food rather than tannins. I think the tannins are good but that is not why I use IALs.
A treat for them I am hoping... I entertained the prospect that you fed them nothing but IAL for a bit. I was very amused.

Thanks for educating me on yet another use of these amazing leaves.
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I think they would get by just fine on IALs and whatever else grows in the tank. But I like giving them a little extra here and there!!!

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Thanks for all the input. I have one floating and we will see how long until they demolish that one. As far as tannins, I love the tea water look. It makes it more natural looking to me.
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If the OP doesn't mind, I'd like to add the question.....how do you store the leaves you are not using yet?

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Dried leaves can just be stored in a ziplock at room temp. If properly prepared they are completely dried out.

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If the OP doesn't mind, I'd like to add the question.....how do you store the leaves you are not using yet?

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Good question. Didn't think of that. Thanks for bringing it up.
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For my twenty gallon, I have 2 big sized IAL leaves in there. They cover about 1/4 of the tank!
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