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From experience i can tell ya that i have ph at 8 out of the tap and up aqua soil gets me to 6.5.
That is not good .For how long and with what water changes?
I did talk to GLA guys and they were kind of.....well.... you can do it probably with 4-5 90% water changes or so.

I'm planning to put only 1-1.5" of substrate in order to cut buffering effect. I can put under it some crushed corals but it will be even more complicated.
Mr. Aqua Aquarium Soil is nice but very expensive.
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I might go with Azoo Plant Grower Bed.
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I'm a big fan of Azoo Plant Grower Bed. Have been using it for a lot of Bees lately and really enjoy it.

Some things to remember when comparing large Asian shrimp operations to the typical home rack: their systems are huge and they often utilize UV sterilization. Giant bodies of water are less likely to have parasitic and bacterial outbreaks than small bodies of water in my experience.

The water changeover in a facility like that is also huge.

They're full-time operations and tanks get monitored all day long. In some cases, 24/7. When a problem is discovered, it's treated within minutes.

Neos, while hardy, can also get infections. Even healthy shrimp. Just the nature of life.

I'm not saying you shouldn't do one large system. Just suggesting that there would be more peace of mind and less risk with individual filtration systems.
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Update 10/15/2012

Here is the rack build update.
4 x 20 Gal long tanks. 4x36 T5HO fixtures. Large sponge filters. Substrate: bottom- ADA Bacter 100,Mosura bio plus and BT-9 covered with Akadama ,topped with Azoo Plant Grower Bed.
bulkheads to provide 200GPH flow. DIY plumbing and spray bars. Some ceramic shelters. Tonight Ill add Malaysian driftwood and will fill the tanks.
Im still waiting for Fish Mate 1000 P-UV filter and Eheim 3000+ compact pump.
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Looking good. I really like this set up.
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I hope that it will work too.
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Plamen, are you trying to make spray bars on the incoming bulkhead water?

'Cause you won't have the positive pressure to drive them.

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They won't be spray bars. Most likely drip bars. I’ll position them 1/2-1” far up from the water level. This way I'll have more power to move water in the tank + will add more O2 to the water. I tested one tank with 180GPH flow and spray bark work OK. I’ll do some video to show current when the setup is ready. Shrimps won’t need high current. It is more for UV lamp and purigen reactor .My goal is to have less maintenance and the same water parameters for those 4 tanks. Hopefully I will skip bacterial and other problems.
Please let me know what are you thinking – good and bad .
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Plamen, are you trying to make spray bars on the incoming bulkhead water?

'Cause you won't have the positive pressure to drive them.

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Thanks for letting me check pond filters. It is more expensive compare to SUN SUN ones but it is simple made and shouldn't leak.
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Make sure your drip holes are larger than you think you need. The surface tension of water is high, so even with a water column of about 1.5 feet worth of pressure which is what you will have you will need to push those drops through small holes, and if they are too small the flow will back up and you get tank overflow.

I'd better hurry up and do that DK watersnake, one of these days, as you will want to know all about it! In the meantime, you want some sort of water alarm on your floor!

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How do you keep baby shrimp from traveling from one tank down the bulkhead into the tank below it??

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How do you keep baby shrimp from traveling from one tank down the bulkhead into the tank below it??

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Ill use Hydro Sponge Pro Filter. If some babies escaped the tank I'll catch them before they mature. The rack is on the patio. If flood occur I'll wet the grass outside and probably will burn some power supplys siting on the floor.</SPAN>

What is DK watersnake?!?!?!?
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Make sure you keep up on the sponge cleaning for the intakes then because with only 1 intake, if it clogs, it will backup the whole system. When I did my multiple connected tank system, I used 2 pipes per tank incase one ever got clogged. Something as simple as a big hunk of moss coming loose could clog up an intake and kill it draining to another tank. I have since taken that system down and went back to the single tanks, simpier is better, tank moss, simple filter on each tank, no massive canisters, no connected tanks, or other crap, just a tank with soil and shrimp and my breeding is coming back. Sometimes simpler is better. I had such awesome breeding going on before I decided to screw with stuff. lol. Finally getting back.

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We always like to make our own mistakes, huh.
At least will be easy to tear down everything.
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I tried this with a 2x 75 and a 40 gallon tank, well the first one overflows. the 1" bulckhead works without any screening on them, but from the moment you put a screen over it, the tank overflows. I used a fluval 305 as filter to push water from the first to the last tank.

I was lucky this happened in my garage.

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