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Looking to set one of these up for Crystal Shrimp. Any recommendations on the type of gravel, and how much? I plan on keeping low light plants like mosses and ferns.

I have a Fluval Ebi Nano tank with Fluval's shrimp media, was thinking of maybe black sand or something similar for this tank. Would that work with shrimp? I have no experience with sand in an aquarium.

The tank is 6.6 gallons.

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If this is the first time you've kept Crystals, you probably should go with a different tank or go with some sort of Neo shrimp. Unless you're experienced, parameters can get outta whack easily in such a small container of water.

It's too short for most Java Ferns. You'll have to stick to Anubias, Crypts and mosses, most likely. At least if you want them to fit in your tank.

Crystal Shrimp require water with specific parameters. I.E., most are unable to use tap water and require RO/DI remineralized water with a pH of 6-6.5, KH of 0-1, GH of 5-6.

You'll likely need a substrate that buffers, so sand won't necessarily cut it.
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Those tanks Do look pretty sweet. I'd be more inclined to jump on a MR. Aqua 12, for more volume and rimless, but that is going to set you back much more than the bookshelf.

If you went with an inert black sand and some almond leaves or alder cones for tannins, you could manage CRS. Probably plan on re-mineralizing RO. I'd start with low grade CRS-And no more than 10 until your confident you can keep them alive for a few months.
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Hi Shocked,

I have Crystals in the Fluval Ebi tank. Many are berried, doing well.

I use RO water, the pH is around 6.0 (which "shocked" me when I first noticed it a week or two ago, was thinking it would be nearer 7.0).

Any suggestions on a buffering substrate? I'm not so sure those used for planted tanks are recommended.

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Since you're confident you can keep them, then I'd suggest you get some really fancy substrate. The tank is small so it'll be affordable.

You could get ADA Aquasoil Powder Type or UP Aqua Shrimp Sand (something that's not worth the price if it's for a larger tank). Both are perfectly sized for a tank like that and will buffer well.

Since it's a small tank, you'll absolutely want to cycle things and let it run (by feeding the tank pure ammonia if you don't go the Aquasoil route) for 4-6 weeks to make sure it's suitable for Crystals. That'll be plenty of time to develop nice biofilm and micro fauna.
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Thanks again, Shocked...

May take awhile to find either of those. Do see that one of the auction sites sells the Shrimp sand, 4.4 pounds for $22.00, plus shipping. Would mixing this with black sand work?
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No, it's not actually sand. It's soil. Much like ADA Aquasoil. You don't want to mix it with sand.

Aquasoil can be purchased from from ADG or AFA (forum sponsors). Shrimp Sand can be found on Amazon.

Actual sand is inert and will do nothing for you other than exist. In a tank so small, it's likely most important to have enough of a high-quality buffering substrate to keep parameters in check.
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Gotcha... no sand. Will do the search for the good stuff!
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I keep CRS with normal tap, use a PH buffering substrate like ADA aquasoil amazonia. My ph is 6.9 and my CRS/CBS are doing fine.
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The OP should keep in mind that not all tap water is created the same.

Keeping shrimp alive and keeping thriving shrimp, which they seem to want, are two different things. Hardness, dissolved solids, temperature, pH and oxygenation all play a role in shrimp health and it's important to remember that. A pH of 6.9 is not ideal. (Yes, I get that it works for you. But it's not ideal or recommended by most.)

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I keep CRS with normal tap, use a PH buffering substrate like ADA aquasoil amazonia. My ph is 6.9 and my CRS/CBS are doing fine.
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Hey Shocked,

I finally got some Up Shrimp Sand, the micro sized. Looks very cool in the new tank. Hope in the near future the shrimp like it too!

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they are great, tried it works awesome with my taiwan bee tank

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Love what you do, and you never have to work again.
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Great!

Start a tank journal so we can all check out your progress. I'm sure it'll be a fun experience for you.

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Hey Shocked,

I finally got some Up Shrimp Sand, the micro sized. Looks very cool in the new tank. Hope in the near future the shrimp like it too!

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Have the tank up and running, Shrimp Sand, HOB filter that came with the kit, some IAL, some old soaked wood with Java moss, a sick plant from one of the big chains, but the wood it's on was nice... a bag of old, well cycled Amazonia soil from a Crystal shrimp tank. Tank is filled with RO water.

Been dosing with Cycle, too. Overkill, perhaps... all been up and running for 4 days.

Been working in the tank, pardon the haze.

Shrimp soon!
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