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post #106 of 172 (permalink) Old 11-26-2012, 11:11 PM
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They call the shrimp Pinto because of it's markings which resemble the pinto horse. I don't know anything about their genetics so I'll let someone else take that.
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Is he actually taking time to breed these out, or just casually naming each thing that pops out?

In my opinion a name is only given to a strain, not anything random.
Yeah I'll throw in my 2 cents about their genetics. They definitely ARE a stable line as defined because Pinto x Pinto = pinto babies. And a name isn't just given to any old random shrimp. E.g, I have some orange shrimp that came out of my CBS tank. I don't want to mess with them and see if they breed true or not so I'm not going to name them. Names are only given to shrimp that will breed true, at least in the past it has been that way. Normally giving a name to a new type of shrimp is the last step in perfecting the line.

And Speedie, no worries, I'm dealing with some English speaking folks in Japan right now who want them... fingers crossed I can get some connections there
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post #107 of 172 (permalink) Old 11-27-2012, 02:28 PM
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And Speedie, no worries, I'm dealing with some English speaking folks in Japan right now who want them... fingers crossed I can get some connections there
That's very cool (side note, *I* might want some pintos for my BKK tank).
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That's very cool (side note, *I* might want some pintos for my BKK tank).
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Will do. I'm starting with 13 BKK from Speedie. But getting some other genes in the mix will be good. So maybe in a few months ... want to make sure I can keep these guys sucessfully before expanding.
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Will do. I'm starting with 13 BKK from Speedie. But getting some other genes in the mix will be good. So maybe in a few months ... want to make sure I can keep these guys sucessfully before expanding.
You may already be doing this, but I strongly recommend breeding them with some nice CBS. This produces hybrid shrimp that carry the TB gene. In the second generation, hybrids will produce roughly 25% Taiwan Bees for you. The important thing is that hybrids are more hardy than the Taiwan Bees, so this allows you to have a backup in case something goes wrong with your 13 Taiwan Bees. In addition, adding genes from CBS will also be good for the bloodline. (As an aside, some of my hybrid CBS and CRS are some of the nicest-looking shrimp in my collection.)

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That would mean acquiring nice CBS (mine are low grades) and setting up yet another tank as I do not want them living mixed with my BKK. Honestly, I’d rather just keep investing in more TB from different sources. The challenge is part of the fun!
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Again with the random double post! Very excited to take off after work and go pick up my BKK from Speedie!!!!!!!!
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It is great to have hybrids in with them, next time nick bringss them in get some. They carry the babies allot better and do not tend to die from the stress of carrying the young. TB tend to pass away carring young. I have about 20TB mixed between WR Extreme, 1 bar Panda, BKK extreme 1 bar panda, Shadow Pandas, Blue bolts and 1 green hulk. I have about 25 F1-F2 Hybrds with them and they berried up much quicker than the TB did

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That would mean acquiring nice CBS (mine are low grades) and setting up yet another tank as I do not want them living mixed with my BKK. Honestly, I’d rather just keep investing in more TB from different sources. The challenge is part of the fun!
This isn't a newbie trick. Nearly ALL of the top breeders mix their Taiwan Bees with CBS or CRS. In fact, the guy who runs FU Shrimp in China, who first developed Taiwan Bees, does this himself, and recommends doing this. Even the top breeders don't like to risk their TB bloodlines...
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I never said it was a newbie trick. I said I didn't want a mixed tank.
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Thanks for sharing! I love the Red Bolt, Blue Pinto and Ghost King Kong! Beautiful shrimpies!!!!

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I never said it was a newbie trick. I said I didn't want a mixed tank.
Sorry, let me re-phrase. I think that not mixing your stock is a "newbie mistake."

No offense intended. Good luck with your KKs--hopefully you can prove me wrong ;-)
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Wasn't this thread about photos long ago, not the various ways of breeding TB ?

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Wasn't this thread about photos long ago, not the various ways of breeding TB ?
Aw, C'mon bro, learning tons of valuable TB info for the future, don't ruin it now .

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Wasn't this thread about photos long ago, not the various ways of breeding TB ?
Your concern for staying on topic is appreciated, but like any other thread on a web forum, things tend to stray OT here and there. I'm perfectly fine with derailments in my threads as long as they are not passed on in a negative light. It's all good/positive information so keep em coming!
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