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Calling all Flubendazole Users

I would like to hear from people as I someone told me some disturbing news.

I recently treated a couple of my tanks for Hydra with Flubendazole. These tanks had snails in them. I relocated the Briggs but left all the other snails in place. I think the bladder, pond and ramshorns are fine. I'm thinking I lost my MTS as I don't see any activity from them now.

I want to know more about Briggs with the use of Flubendazole. What I was just informed of, what that someone used it before and haven't been able to put Briggs or Nerites back into the tank! Huh? I thought the effects were not supposed to be long term/permanent.

Please, please tell me it ain't so Joe!
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I had the same issue. I used flubendazole flake in a 55g, moved teh snails, and have been unable (for a year, so far) to move the snails back without them dying. I tried as recently as a month ago to house nerites in the tank. WIthin a day, they were totally inactive so I had to move them back out. Keep in mind, my tanks get 3x/week 50% water changes and do not have substrate so surface residuals should not be an issue this long afterwards. I did run purigen, but have not tried longterm solutions like poly filter 24/7 to try and neutralize the chemicals.
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I'm the same person that responded to you on AC's forum. It was msjinkzd that confirmed to me that my snail problem was the flubendazole treatment that I had done months earlier.

As I said, it's been a year now- I was going to try briggs again, but seeing msjinkzd's response here, I'm thinking it may not be a good idea.

I _hate_ not being able to keep briggs, nerites and mts in my invert tank. I've thought about taking it down completely, doing something to "sterilize" it, and starting over- I'm just not sure whether or not that will work.
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Will running charcoal or carbon (whatever it is) remove it from the water?

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I tried purigen (which should work as well as charcoal to remove meds).

To be clear, I have never had problems with "common" snails, just ornamentals like brigs and nerites.

I was not trying to treat planaria or hydra when I did my treatment, but was treating parasites with medications intended for use with fish. I am not sure how the dosage compares to that of the dose used for planaria/hydra.
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I've dosed Flubendazole a few times in my tank with no issues with snails afterwards. However, I always have Purigen in my canisters and an additional bag in tank. I took the Purigen out during medication and put it back after a monster WC 48 hours later.

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i did not leave constant chemical filtration in for the year post, just for a week following treatment.

Generally, in my tanks, I don't use any filter media beyond the sponges and just add corner filters to use chemical media as needed.

Its possible you would have no issues if you ran chemical media long term.
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I don't normally run AC, Purigen or anything else for that matter. Just standard media pads or poly-fil. I'm running AC now in the two tanks that I used it in.

These are planted tanks as well which is another reason not to run AC or Purigen due to fert dosing.
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This has got me really, really bummed now.
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I only run chemical filtration occasionally- so I don't know how well it would work if I ran it all the time. I thought I remembered reading that someone tried to remove it chemically, but still had problems. However, I think that they only ran it for 48 hours.

I have no problems with ramshorns, they breed and multiply in my tanks, but my mts died off- which I consider atypical.

I'm experimenting with assasins at the moment.

I was treating fish parasites and had to give multiple doses.
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Mine was one small dose of 5% Flub (< 1/8tsp). Ran in the tank for 1 week as directed. Followed by large water change and AC in the filter.
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What size tank?

I used 10% Flubendazole powder, and quite a bit more than you- the treatment protocol I followed was 1/4 teaspoon per 5 gallons of water per dosing. I dosed 2-3 times, with 3 days between dosings and a 50% water change before each dosing.

Affected snails become sluggish and stop moving before they die. Once they stop moving, they can't be saved. The lower dose may not cause your briggs any problems, but if they become sluggish, I'd pull them immediately.
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Both tanks I ran it in are 10g's.
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Sewingalot had a similar problem, in which she was unable to keep shrimp in a tank previously treated with Algaefix. She believes it bonded with the substrate.
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I don't use substrate, nor much decor in my tanks as they are import tanks. Which is why I was especially confuzzled (yes, i am saying that IS a word). My only thoughts were it must have bonded with the silicon.
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