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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 01-11-2017, 05:06 PM Thread Starter
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New RCS tank, 3 gallon, sand bottom with tons of anubias petite

My first shrimp tank... Do you suggest cycling with a couple fish first?

Tank has a sand bottom with a carpet of anubias petite in areas, will post pics after work. I'm starting with 25, is that a good number? If not I have a high tech 40 breeder with one dojoloach in it that I can put some shrimp in.

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Dojo loaches may harass shrimp.


Cycle using clear ammonia. If you have an Ace Hardware store in your area, you can get ammonia there. When shaken, ammonia should look like water. If it foams up at the top, it's no good. Otherwise, you could also buy Dr Tim's Ammonia from Amazon or some fish stores.

Add enough ammonia to bring it to 2ppm, and when the tank can convert the ammonia to nitrates within 24 hours, the tank is cycled.



A 25g tank is fine!
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Thanks, and it's been cycling for a little over a week with aquarium water from my fertilized 40 gallon so I believe it should be cycled I guess. I'll try the ammonia cycle on my next tank.

And I meant 25 shrimp, I just wasn't sure how many would be needed to easily start a colony.
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Thanks, and it's been cycling for a little over a week with aquarium water from my fertilized 40 gallon so I believe it should be cycled I guess. I'll try the ammonia cycle on my next tank.

And I meant 25 shrimp, I just wasn't sure how many would be needed to easily start a colony.
Be sure it is cycled. What are you water parameters looking like? Check your ammonia levels, nitrites and nitrates. Are your ammonia and nitrite levels zeroing out after 24 hours? It's better to have conclusive data on your side than to guess otherwise. Last thing you want to do is not knowing what conditions your water are in.
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Thanks once everything is at zero I'll post up some pics of the new shrimp in the tank. I've got a nice theme to it. Shrimp will love it
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If you have to buy the shrimp I wouldnt think that you would need to buy 25 esp if they are more then a couple bucks a pop. I purchased 5 RCS at $5 a piece 2 years ago when i started this hobby and now i've sold 200-300 shrimp that they started from, have yellow ones and still have about 200-250 shrimp left and more every day. These original 5 shrimp started in a fluval spec V (5 gallon) and i remember stopping my count at 140 in a 5 GALLON! I pulled about 10-12 out and tossed them in my fluval edge (6g) and same thing, TONS of shrimp very quickly.
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10 shrimp, minimum, is recommended, 25 is great!


It helps to know the GH and KH of the water as well.


Using water from an established aquarium doesn't really help a tank cycle.... using filter media, decorations or substrate from an established aquarium will, however.


I would recommend waiting at least 3-4 weeks to be sure the tank is cycled, although the ammonia isn't just to help cycle the tank... it helps to grow biofilm which shrimp will eat.
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If you can sex shrimp you can get away with fewer than 10. It's the recommended number because you're unlikely to only get all of one gender by random chance.

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Thanks for the input guys! I'm going to take all your advice and do the following:

- I'm getting 15 shrimp for 10 bucks, 1 buck per shrimp thereafter so figured id just throw the guy a 20. I'm picking them up locally and he said they will already be breeding so I'll get various sizes.

- Tested the tank because I impulse bought two pea puffers. The nitrites in the tank are around 10ppm so tank is definitely still cycling, I'll give the tank another few days before I do a water change.

- While figuring out the water in the 3 gallon I'll house the shrimp in my already existing rainbow tank with the puffers and one dojo. I know the dojo may eat the shrimp, but no way he can do that much work in only a week. The tank is densely planted as well.
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I agree 10 at least, and even 12...

I recently bought 12 Blue dream (Sapphire). 11 survived, and there was only 1 female on the 11 left.

She got berried, but unfortunately, It doesn' seem to have been success in hatching.

She then died because of a molt problem, and now I have only 10 males left... =.=
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That's a pain Matuva! Hopefully you have a good local breeder to get some females. Gotta say im excited to try out shrimp!
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- While figuring out the water in the 3 gallon I'll house the shrimp in my already existing rainbow tank with the puffers and one dojo. I know the dojo may eat the shrimp, but no way he can do that much work in only a week. The tank is densely planted as well.
Not a good idea imho both the loach and puffers are very likely to eat all but the largest of the shrimp.

Why not just wait until your cycle has finished and then buy the shrimp?
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