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Thanks for putting this together. Definitely on my list of things to do at some point...

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when you say you must have crushed coral as a substrate, is that when using ro? What if water out of tap already comes out with a ph of 8.0-8.2?

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you must have crushed coral. it keeps the PH stable.

If you have ph of 8.2 out of the tap 99 percent of the time your TDS is going to be too high for these shrimp 99 percent of the time. Ill update the post with TDS recommended levels tomorrow.

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There are a lot of folks who use a neutral substrate and either treat the water before adding it or put crushed coral in the filter. One draw back to having crushed coral as a substrate is that you may have your TDS continue to increase. You can monitor this and set up a water change schedule to keep things in a specific range.

I have a couple Sulawesi tanks, one with crushed coral and one with inert gravel and sand. In my case, I treat RO water by putting it in a five gallon bucket with a layer of crushed coral. After a couple days, I have water at 8.2 pH with kH and gH at around 4. The TDS is around 150. The inert substrate keeps these parameters pretty stable. Top off is done with RO. The tank with the crushed coral gets a 10% water change every week and this keeps things stable. Ultimately, you need to decide what will work best for maintaining a uniform environment.
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Dude, so like I heard there were a bunch of different types of Sulawesi? Like colors and stuff? Like what's the difference?
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Dude, so like I heard there were a bunch of different types of Sulawesi? Like colors and stuff? Like what's the difference?
It's a blanket term for shrimp from Sulawesi. There are multiple species (close to a dozen I think?). I don't keep up much with them since I have little interest in them right now. Next year, sure. Now, no.

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It's a blanket term for shrimp from Sulawesi. There are multiple species (close to a dozen I think?). I don't keep up much with them since I have little interest in them right now. Next year, sure. Now, no.
Oh, so when most people refer to Sulawesi now referring to like Cardinal species (red and white, I forget what they're called).
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Cardinal is a species in the Sulawesi group of shrimp.

A Sulawesi Cardinal (Caridinia dennerli)
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Oh, so when most people refer to Sulawesi now referring to like Cardinal species (red and white, I forget what they're called).
Well, that can be ONE of them they are referring to. It'd be like us saying "Asian Shrimp". Well, that could include Tigers, CRS, RCS (and all the varieties), and so on.

Here are some of the species coming from Sulawesi: http://www.guitarfish.org/2008/02/07...ulawesi-shrimp

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Here are some links with info useful to folks wanting more info on shrimp from Sulawesi

Here are some good pictures of the Malili lakes and the shrimps natural habitat
( in Japanese)
http://equator.web.fc2.com/indonesia...anaomatano.htm
http://equator.web.fc2.com/indonesia-sulawesi-danao.htm
http://equator.web.fc2.com/indonesia...-danaoposo.htm
A photo journal of a collecting trip to Matano and Towuti (in German)
http://www.garnelenhaus.de/pageflip/...t-sulawesi.pdf
A thread in Arizona Inverts with the english translation! look down a couple of posts
http://arizonainverts.com/forums/ind...showtopic=1808
A scientific paper describing 8 species of Sulawesi shrimp and some notes on habitat
http://rmbr.nus.edu.sg/rbz/biblio/57/57rbz343-452.pdf
I saw a post with a link to German site focused on diseases of shrimp and crayfish! Unbelievable! The German hobbyists are way ahead. Here is a link to the Google translated site:
http://translate.google.com/translat...%3Den%26sa%3DG
For those interested, I did find a very useful paper that was recently published on Lake Matano water chemistry. Here is the link
http://aslo.org/lo/pdf/vol_53/issue_1/0319.pdf
If you can't open the file, do a google search on this title:
"The biogeochemistry of tropical lakes: A case study from Lake Matano, Indonesia"
In a nut shell - this is an ancient and stable lake. The upper water layers are clear and nutrient poor (oligotrophic). Low P, N and organic matter coupled with fairly high Chromium and Nickel concentrations. These metals may contribute to the low abundance of phytoplankton.
German site with a video of the Malili lakes showing the shrimp in their natural habitat. look about 1/2 way down the page
http://translate.googleusercontent.c...-Pvd_9ZLoeCg1Q
Water Parameters Towuti Lake - Harlequins, Redlines, Red Orchids, Yellow cheeks and many others are from here
Temperature average: 30 C
pH: 8.3
gH: 6
kH: 5-6
Conductivity: 181
Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrate: 0
Phosphate: 2
Iron, Copper: 0
Water Parameters Mantano Lake - Where Cardinals are from
Temperature: 29.5 C
pH: 8.6
gH: 7
kH: 5
Conductivity: 227
Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrate, Iron, Copper: 0
Phosphate: 1
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Just a thought here. I just a read a thread talking about how fresh clams cant survive with a filter on and prefer just a powerhead. Any chance these shrimp would have a higher chance of surviving in a set up with no filtration but a powerhead?

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good info bill, Ill edit that into the original post, giving you credit of course!

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I apologize if that post was over stepping. Your intention of creating a thread to get good info out there on these shrimp is a very great idea. I had compiled this for my local club and though it would be helpful.

I hope you are successfull in getting this to be a sticky - please feel free to edit the post as you see fit!

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no Im glad you posted it! I had found that info about the specific lake water paramaters, but couldnt find what shrimp were from what lake so I just ommited and was hoping somebody would have that!

I found a third lake, lake poso. Any shrimp from there or is that the snail lake? (orange poso snail)

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anyone ever think this is good for Sulawesi shrimp?? Eco-Complete African Cichlid SAND Substrate
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