Poll: Rimless Aficionados: 40B vs. 20L - next best rimless? - The Planted Tank Forum
View Poll Results: The Next Best Rimless: 20L vs. 40B?
20g Long 11 42.31%
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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 10-30-2013, 01:26 AM Thread Starter
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Arrow Poll: Rimless Aficionados: 40B vs. 20L - next best rimless?

Just wanted to see what you guys think of a rimless, high-clarity (low iron) version of two very popular tank dimensions:

20 gallon Long vs. 40 gallon Breeder?

With the popularity of rimless footprints such as the 12L and 60F, shallower longer tanks seem to be highly desirable compared to other dimensions.

Couple that trend with the rise of Dutch Aquascaping influences, the 20L and 40B both seem like good candidates for a rimless makeover to fulfill that need. But which of the two will hit that sweet spot to rule them all?

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For those that vote, PLEASE vote for the tank that would be most "realistic" to your situation. Sure, who wouldn't want a 90P, or 120P or something BIGGER! But, you know when BIGGER is concerned, money and space become an issue. So if a 20L fits the bill better in terms of lower cost and enough space at your place to fit the tank and to do a nice scape, vote that way. Or if a 40B is a must have, vote accordingly. Trying to get the best accurate picture here. - Thank you!

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I vote 20 long. I feel enough companies make something close enough to a rimless 40B (90P dimensions) and I like the added height of the the 90P anyway.

A lot of people don't like the lighting options for a 20 long but I found a 24 in fixture raised did as well as most. With more LED options becoming available, I think 30in is going to be a popular size for LED so no need for an odd sized bulb going that route.
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I vote 20 long. I feel enough companies make something close enough to a rimless 40B (90P dimensions) and I like the added height of the the 90P anyway.

A lot of people don't like the lighting options for a 20 long but I found a 24 in fixture raised did as well as most. With more LED options becoming available, I think 30in is going to be a popular size for LED so no need for an odd sized bulb going that route.
Yeah my vote is 20L too... but if a 30" light is too odd ball, except for suspended lighting as you mentioned, do you think it would be better to extend the length of the tank to 36" (while keeping the depth and height the same)? Not sure how many gallons an extra 6" will get you? Maybe 25L or something?

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Yeah my vote is 20L too... but if a 30" light is too odd ball, except for suspended lighting as you mentioned, do you think it would be better to extend the length of the tank to 36" (while keeping the depth add height the same)? Not sure how many gallons 6" will get you? Maybe 25L or something?
Well, there are plenty of off the shelf lights, it's just some use 24 in bulbs which obviously don't extend the whole length of the tank, then Coralife is the only manufacturer that makes a 30 in bulb. I am super partial to 20L dimensions myself, I think once you go longer, it's almost to "specialty", like a 33 long/12 long/etc. The 20 long is nice because it can be panoramic and have empty space but not to the point you can't have a nice "regular" scape.

A 25L or whatever that would be still would fit a standard size stand however, which is nice.

At the end of the day, I would still want a rimless 20 long over just about anything. Another size I would like would be 24x12x12, just a shorter version of it. But, for a sub 30-40 gallon tank, again, I would take a rimless 20 long.
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33 gallon long.
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33 gallon long.
AGREED... 33L's have such an amazing footprint!
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I break the rules and vote 90-P style: same footprint as 40B +2" in height. "Perfect" 2:1:1 proportions for general scaping, imho. 20L is too shallow for my taste with the odd-ball 30" length.

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I break the rules and vote 90-P style: same footprint as 40B +2" in height. "Perfect" 2:1:1 proportions for general scaping, imho. 20L is too shallow for my taste with the odd-ball 30" length.

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I don't disagree with you about 90-P dimensions but I know of at least 3 manufactures who make this size without really ever looking very hard. I would also like to see a 24x12x12, following the same idea. I know this tank already exists but I don't know where to buy. I like the 60P size for certain things but I like tanks that are the same height as deep for other types of scapes like iwagumi. If I had both and just swapped them out depending on the scape, I would be very happy.
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That 33 long looks like great footprint 48x13x12
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Now I think I'd like to see a 33g long rimless come to market.
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Darnit you guys, I wasn't aware there was such a thing as a 33g long. Now I have to have one. Preferably rimless, so if that could happen I will totally sign up.

Grrrrr, this site is REALLY enabling my MTS.

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Guess what fellas!

GLA rimless tanks are making a comeback! Just got done chatting with Orlando and he confirmed that they'll be receiving their first shipment of GLA tanks on Monday the 18th.

Also... he's gonna try a small run of 33g Long rimless tanks shortly after.. If they sell well and fast, he'll consider making larger runs and make that footprint a mainstay in the lineup of GLA tanks!

This is exciting news
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Any word on when those 33L's are gonna drop?
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That 33L has super cool dimensions! Makes me try and think of where I could put one.
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