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post #1 of 32 (permalink) Old 12-23-2003, 10:24 PM Thread Starter
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Identifying crypts has to be the one of the hardest tasks that there is. I just have to rant about my confusion after trying to figure what crypt I have. There seems to be so much variety within the species that it is almost impossible to identify without the flower. Natural hybrids cause even more confusion to this.

I am sure that the crypt in the picture is either Blassi, Beckettii or Wendtii- would anyone be able to narrow it down from the picture? The leaves seem to vary on the plant but it looks like the cordate leaf base and the narrow lanceolate shape are the dominant features. When I bought it, the plant had very light green leaves and now the leaves are a very dark green. The underside can be purpleish red though all that remains is just the red veins because of it being in 20g with no care for a year.

I have tried using Kasselmann's book but the descriptions for Beckettii and Wendtii are very similar. I have placed one of the bigger plants into a terrarium just to see if it flowers in a few months.

When I bought the plant, I remember seeing Cryptocoryne Usteriana labeled on the tank with the miscellaneous plants. Now I wish I bought Usteriana(gorgeous plant) instead of this!
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post #2 of 32 (permalink) Old 12-23-2003, 10:44 PM
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I am by no means a specialist, but it looks like Wendtii... I am sure some one much more qualified will be able to tell for sure.



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It's probably wendtii, but then again everything is probably wendtii. I'm about to start a bunch of crypts in individual containers to get them to flower so I can peg down what they are. Short of doing a DNA analysis thats about the only way to get an accurate guess. I am currently talking to a molecular biologist friend who thinks that we can get the DNA testing done too. So I might have two educated guesses, where I only have shot in the dark guesses now.

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DNA testing?! I was just thinking about that(I was bored and desperate, heh), but I have no resources to do so. I love how Kasselmann's book lists the chromosomes of the crypts- it just might useful to some of us...

I love Crypts but I just think Wendtii must be the ugliest one that there is.

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I love Crypts but I just think Wendtii must be the ugliest one that there is.
How can you tell? It changes appearance in every tank it is grown in.

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It's a fine line between fishing and standing on the shore looking like an idiot.

That IS an aquascape, it's titled "The Vacant Lot".
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I love the wendtii's... such a simple plant but they always add a nice touch to a tank.
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I do not mind the green variety, but it is the brown & slightly bullated leaf variation I do not like. Bullate leaves just looks so flimsy when the leaves are so thin. I must be too picky.

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I do not mind the green variety, but it is the brown & slightly bullated leaf variation I do not like. Bullate leaves just looks so flimsy when the leaves are so thin. I must be too picky.
I'm going nuts trying to get the bullated crypts imported! That hammered leaf look is the greatest thing going :!:

I love this forum, everyone has such different tastes. I just hope everyone is willing to express their views.

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That IS an aquascape, it's titled "The Vacant Lot".
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That hammered leaf look is the greatest thing going
I agree SC... Im a sucker for the hammered look as well !
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If you ever get C. Bullosa, you would be my envy. Very dark and bullated leaves(not flimsy!) but sadly very rare.

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If you ever get C. Bullosa, you would be my envy. Very dark and bullated leaves(not flimsy!) but sadly very rare.
And they say it is hard to keep in an aquarium, but I'd like to give it a shot. I'm trying to get C. keei and C. hudoroi. Both are better adapted to submerged conditions. I'm getting there, it wasn't long ago that C. pontederiifolia and moehlmannii were on my wish list. One of my favorite things is watching a moehlmannii unfurl a new leaf.

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I am hoping my LFS is actually ordering what I told them to. I might be able to get C. Griffithi after christmas =). I am really thinking of getting a terrarium so I can start collecting Crypts. Some of them look magnificent when grow emersed. Until I have every crypt on this page ( http://www.rva.ne.jp/gallery/gallary/gallary_cry.html ) , I probably will not stop.

I envy those people in Japan, they can order rare plants from that site.

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Definetly not blassi. Could be wendtii, becketii, or petchii.

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I am hoping my LFS is actually ordering what I told them to. I might be able to get C. Griffithi after christmas =). I am really thinking of getting a terrarium so I can start collecting Crypts. Some of them look magnificent when grow emersed. Until I have every crypt on this page ( http://www.rva.ne.jp/gallery/gallary/gallary_cry.html ) , I probably will not stop.

I envy those people in Japan, they can order rare plants from that site.
Look at my list under my tank pics, I've been trying for years and I'm not even half way there. But, then again I might have been kicking over the wrong stones. I think this next year is gonna be a lot of fun.

Hey, you're in Canada, you can get Tropica plants! We can't get them down here so guess what, someone envys you!

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Aquascape? I'm a crypt farmer.

It's a fine line between fishing and standing on the shore looking like an idiot.

That IS an aquascape, it's titled "The Vacant Lot".
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Tropica is great. I have to visit another city nearby that has receives plants from them but it is worth it for the selection. I was able to get Cyperus helferi and Limnophila aromatica few months ago.

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