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View Poll Results: Who has the best scapes?
Takashi Amano 21 63.64%
Oliver Knott 3 9.09%
James Findley 0 0%
Tom Barr 7 21.21%
Jeff Senske 1 3.03%
Dave Chow 1 3.03%
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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 03-23-2013, 06:03 PM Thread Starter
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Oliver Knott : Salieri :: Amano : Mozart, planted tank celebs

Oliver Knott, Takashi Amano,

Who has the best scapes


Amano:

+ clearly the king, no complaints there
+ perfect


Oliver Knott:

- Many of his tanks are Micky mouse, tawdry
- although he has a wide scope i feel he has sold out, many of his new tanks are reminiscent of the guys on animal planet's "tanked" an embarrassment.
+ Innovator
+ Long history


why I don't like Tom Barr:

+ great at growing plants
- his hardscapes lack sophistication
- he focuses more on plant growth rather than the look as a whole
- he often uses plants with large leaves
- his tanks are cluttered
- he rarely mixes plants (there's rotala over here and a separate group of ludwigia next to it) not blended
+ great at dealing with problems like algae
- most of the problems he addresses are due to being cheap and cutting corners




also these guys are great

Dave Chow #1 HK + sweet scapes
James Findley #1 UK + awsome info, inovative pruning methods
Jeff Senske #1 USA + USA hero
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Amano hands down if you're into Nature style. Knott has some good ones but I'm going to have to agree he's gotten a bit silly with some stuff he does. I like Jeff Senske's scapes also.

You might want to have a look at UKAPS.org. In addition to James Findley, there's most notably George Farmer along with Mark Evans, Dan Crawford and some other talented scapers. You'll also find quite a few good scapes from Eastern Europe.

http://www.ukaps.org/forum/threads/a...-present.4160/
http://www.ukaps.org/forum/threads/u...-gallery.3344/
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Oliver Knott has gotten a bit silly with his use of ornaments.
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Oliver Knott : Salieri :: Amano : Mozart, planted tank celebs

I have personally never been a fan of Oliver Knott or James Findley's work. But in regards to aquascaping ability, I completely disagree with you about Tom Barr. He has created a style that is very hard to execute (e.g. his "not so dutch" tank), and he has done it perfectly in my opinion.

I'm also disappointed to not see Jason Baliban on this list, as I think he is definitely one of the best aquascapers in the country.

But why does any of this matter? It's all subjective...


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I have personally never been a fan of Oliver Knott or James Findley's work. But in regards to aquascaping ability, I completely disagree with you about Tom Barr. He has created a style that is very hard to execute (e.g. his "not so dutch" tank), and he has done it perfectly in my opinion.

I'm also disappointed to not see Jason Baliban on this list, as I think he is definitely one of the best aquascapers in the country.

But why does any of this matter? It's all subjective...
You're right in that it is subjective and all a matter of personal taste, but I think it's good to get to see scapes from aquarists that I might not have known about had it not been for threads such as these.

It's no different from a thread about which filter, light, etc. is the best.
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clearly, its Tom Barr
his hobbyist fish oriented style fits perfecly for what many of us are trying to do


just thought i'd throw the wild card out there
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I like Amano. But i must say that after watching dozens and dozens of his videos on youtube, all his tanks start looking the same and repetitious. Moss on manzanita, same plants, single species of fish. Although i must admit i'd love to go snorkeling in his Altum Angel tank....

Must be nice to have unlimited access to any plant you want, all the best equipment and as many ADA tanks you need. Not to mention all the time in the world dedicated to only scaping. Yep, i'm totally jealous.
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Amano is great and all, but his work is getting old and repetitive just as he is. I would have to vote Jeff Senske. I've met his brother Mike at their store. I've got to say those tanks are amazing! The hardscape and livestock are well thought out. They always seem to find the right combination. Not only do they do planted tanks, they do reef tanks along with non planted tanks. Their recent reef tank is just compelling! The lighting and filtration is mind blowing. Also, they actually do a lot of legwork themselves and not just bark commands at other people all the time. I also like that when they decide to do something, they go all out and not half arsed.

Just curious, why not Frank Wazeter from ADG? He's really good too! I'm sure his work is much better than some of the names on your poll.

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I like David Chow's work the most personally in the listing, but Amano has had the most impact. I'm not sure why John placed me up there with Oliver and Amano, dang. Also, I do not do this full time(1-2 days a week, tops), all of the people above do it full time. It is their primary job/profession.

Given I've never once entered a single competition in any contest, ever.
You did not list a single Dutch NBAT scaper.
Perhaps this was an oversight? Do you know their aesthetics and rules?
It helps to understand some of what I do and why.

George Farmer and the UK group have really become quite good in a brief period of time. CAU are all very very good.
Pasquale from Italy I like a good deal.

Also, the highest ranking ADA contest tank was George Lo's 20th rank from the USA. AFA has consistently good aquascapes. Both they and ADG are ADA trained however. I like Oliver, he's a funny guy. Taiwan and Viet styles are emerging somewhat also.

I think ADG wins for being able to keep the full spectra of aquatic animal livestock and scapes from virtually any genre: reef, paludariums, freshwater, biotope, ADA style, etc. Not one of the other people on the list can make that claim.

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I don't get why Tom got a negative for focusing on plant growth

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