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post #1 of 24 (permalink) Old 02-04-2013, 06:35 AM Thread Starter
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Angry GRRR! Was there ever that ONE fish you couldn't catch?

I have tried every tip that's been thrown my way. I bought some black tulle tonight and some plastic coated picture hanging wire - I was going to make a seine-like trap, but the wire was too flexible. Tomorrow I'll buy heavy jewelry wire. If I don't catch it then, then I'm leaving it in the tank.

I've learned two good lessons - PLAN for things like this when you scape; I didn't, and now I have driftwood I can't maneuver around and no open spaces to corral the fish into - it's impossible to net anything between the rocks and the driftwood. It's a six foot long tank, and I have a length of five feet of driftwoodw that goes from the substrate all the way above the waterline. Not any old dw, but twisty, arcing, loop-de-loop dw full of tunnels and holes. I'm trying to catch a 2" Blue Tetra - I might as well be trying to catch a Mako shark in the open ocean with my bare hands.

Lesson two; don't put Blue Tetras in a community tank. Disaster. I only have two left - a male and a female. The female's not so bad - she could even stay. But the male has decided the entire center of the tank is his. He's aggressive and darts out to nip fish out of his way. He goes 3 feet at a time to pop another fish. He doesn't actually nip (no damaged fins ever) but more like chases. The tank was soooo peaceful before I added the Blues. If I could only get that male out...

I'm so worried I'll make my fish sick by stressing them out when I try to catch the little bugger - they totally freak and pant heavily. I'm starting to think it's less stressful for me to leave the Blue tetra in there, and let the community adapt around him. What do you think? I have no desire to drain the tank to net him - it's a 125 and I don't want to drain that much (again, stressing the other fish).

*sigh* Have you ever had a fish you never could catch, or was too much hassle to (in regards to stressing the rest of the tank)? I wish I had miniature spearfishing equipment! I'd shoot that sucker like William Tell did an apple.

Well, I'll try again tomorrow night with my homemade seine. If that doesn't work I won't subject my poor fish to anymore nonsense. Next thing I'll know the stress will break them all out in ich or columnaris...as a matter of fact, I may have talked myself out of trying anymore - I feel horrible when I see how panicked the tank gets, and it lasts for days. I don't think that one fish bothers them nearly as much as I do, and I really am afraid I'll make them sick. I need to calm down, breath deep, and get over my Captain Ahab complex - lol

Thanks for letting me vent and work through it! I am giving up on that danged fish.

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GRRR! Was there ever that ONE fish you couldn't catch?

Set your alarm and try to catch it resting at night :p
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Drain the tank? Then use 2 nets to corner it. One net chases, one forms a "cubicle" at a tank corner.

Use a spraybottle to keep the plants moist. Any fish is easily caught when the net is taller than the water column. This is what I had to do to catch a Siamese algae eater in a 7 foot tank.
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Hmmm...except I don't go to bed until 3 or 4 am...lol. I have my lights on a timer so they come on late go off at 1:45am, so I get to see my fish when I get home from work. Really, at this point I'm going to let the little monster stay. But I do think my seine will work - maybe one last try...but I have tried catching it at night too - it is very alert all the time, and I never get near it. It may sound stupid to some, but I find it's kind of heartbreaking when the fish that normally come up to see you at the glass, instead swim off to hide whenever you get within 20 feet of the tank. That's why I think I'm giving up. Now they see me as a big bad monster.

I just gave the fish some Jake's veggie sticks - they go nuts for them. Trying to take their little minds off of me - haha. Now they're happy as clams (I hope), swimming around with veggie sticks in their mouths. Comfort food always works for me! Lights just went out and they can calm down & rest. Now I'm cooking myself some comfort food - coconut pudding with cream.

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Drain the tank? Then use 2 nets to corner it. One net chases, one forms a "cubicle" at a tank corner.

Use a spraybottle to keep the plants moist. Any fish is easily caught when the net is taller than the water column. This is what I had to do to catch a Siamese algae eater in a 7 foot tank.
Oh, I'm sorry but that's just too much work. It's a good plan and I'm sure it would work, but I'm not up to it. It's a 125g tank and I do my water changes with a 2 gallon bucket. I'm 5' 4" and 51 years old! The 2 gallon bucket is as much as I can lift. lol It's backbreaking for me after 20 gallons or so. Pythons and python type siphons won't work with my faucet - not even the siphon adapters, and I've tried a few. I'm having a new sink put in this summer and the one criteria I have for the new faucet is that it will work with a tank siphon. I can't be doing water changes like this when I'm 60! Your idea is excellent, but I'd have to have a few energy drinks in me to start I could hand siphon the tank water into a new trash can, the pour it back in the tank when done, but I will be honest & say the fish will just have to duke it out if that's my only feasible option...

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I had some evil danios(yes danios, don't laugh) I've removed from 2 tanks. I fed them and swooped in with the big net and pulled out all the fish and moved then to a glass mixing bowl with a little water and picked out the ones I wanted to keep until only the rejects were left in the bowl.
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SAE...

The key to catching hard ones is to do it at night while they're sleeping. I sneak up with a small flashlight and a net while the room lights are off.... Stealth ninja imo.
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It is not so much the fish that is impossible to catch - it is the layout of your tank. A large tank full of wood and plants can make it near impossible to catch many fish.

When I drained my 100gal tank the last fish I caught were the Yoyo loaches and Otos. The water was so low that they couldn't swim away and hide anymore.

So... no idea.
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Yes, wasserpest gets it - it's the layout that prevents me from catching it. I will never willy-nilly put a hardscape together again. Catching fish was something I didn't take into consideration. Although I will say I looked into the tank with a flashlight last night about an hour after lights-out, and one of the Blue tetras was hovering near the surface. Unfortunately I think it was the nearly innocent female, but I can't be sure. I'm going to keep the glass top off 2 sections of the tank so I can sneak up (don't want jumpers, so one glass section stays on) and I'm also going to replace the big bright blue netting on one of my long handled nets with my black tulle I bought - hard for the fish to see - and try scooping it out while lights are off by stunning it in the flashlight beam. It might work - lol.

and what is sae? The only SAE I know is Siamese Algae Eater - lol

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I presume you tried the inverted 2 liter bottle trap idea? It worked for me and my rummynose tetras? If that guy has a favorite food it should work...

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I had big time problems catching my Texas Cichlid in my 125 the other day, took me about 30 minutes with two nets.

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I've never tried the bottle trap - I hear it works well, but the guy I'm trying to catch never goes near the bottom 1/3 of the tank, but my other tetras species constantly feed off the bottom if veggie sticks or food - such as the frozen bloodworms - makes it there. The other tetras sniff out fallen food like bloodhounds - I have yet to see the Blue tetra "hunt" by scent. I think all I would catch are the other species of tetras in the tank. Either that or get stuck partway through (they are all different sizes, up to 3")

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I had big time problems catching my Texas Cichlid in my 125 the other day, took me about 30 minutes with two nets.
I've wanted a big tank all my life - I never thought there was a downside to it - until now. lol

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awww...so bummed. Lesson learned. When the lights came on just now I found a dead Columbian tetra stuck in the plants. I'm stressing them out too much. The bully never caused any stress related death or sickness, so I'm going back to a hands-off tank. I've never had a death in this tank before, except for the other smaller Blue tetras that got picked off by the bigger Blues. I just fed the fish and they all cowered in a corner. I hope I don't get a breakout of disease...

Thanks for the additional tips, but the hunt is over.

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