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Hey guy's long time lurker and I felt like I needed to join.

I have a 10g with 2x13 watt 6500k CFL'S.

I would like to make it a nice planted tank but keep my budget $50 or less. What can I do to become successful at doing so? What plant's, light, fert, etc. do i need and how much and how long should i do stuff?
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Welcome to TPT! As you have probably seen, its a great forum to be on

Unfortunately I have no experience with CFL's, but I assume this is going to be a low tech tank? What substrate are you using?
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I'm open to suggestions, I'm going to redo the whole tank. I'm thinking eco complete to flora max.
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You have quite a bit of light there. 50 years ago I got my first 5 gal and shortly after two 10 gal tanks. It was easy then, because we did not have bright lights. Algae was pretty rare, and never aggressive like it is in hi tech systems. If you really want that much light, you will probably need either CO2 or Flourish Excel or its equivalent. Assuming you have plants, you will need ferts to support your lights, or once again you will have an algae farm. You should be fine if you research these topics some.
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CFLs work well two 12 watt ( 75w equivalent) work for best coverage. Sag and dwarf sag work well and will grow. A lot of plants will stay alive but won't grow hair grass will barely stay alive micro chain swords will do well all with no ferts this is just my experience. The best thing to do is find a package deal with many different plants and see what does well for you and your substrate I have tanks that something will grow well and others where it just dies also look into dirt with a gravel cap that is where I have the most success.
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CFLs work well two 12 watt ( 75w equivalent) work for best coverage. Sag and dwarf sag work well and will grow. A lot of plants will stay alive but won't grow hair grass will barely stay alive micro chain swords will do well all with no ferts this is just my experience. The best thing to do is find a package deal with many different plants and see what does well for you and your substrate I have tanks that something will grow well and others where it just dies also look into dirt with a gravel cap that is where I have the most success.
I've already gone that route, I've wasted so much $ on buying plant's and killing them. I guess what I really want is a list of plant's I can grow and what I else I need to make them grow to their full potential without using CO2 and not have an algae farm.
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Hey guy's long time lurker and I felt like I needed to join.

I have a 10g with 2x13 watt 6500k CFL'S.

I would like to make it a nice planted tank but keep my budget $50 or less. What can I do to become successful at doing so? What plant's, light, fert, etc. do i need and how much and how long should i do stuff?
Hi Aulonocara,

Here is an example of what you are trying to do....10 gallon; 2X13 watt CFL; Safe-T-Sorb substrate (40#/$10 delivered); heater, hang on back filter, Seachem Flourish Comprehensive and Seachem Flourish Excel. Tank was set up 7/31/12 to breed Apistogramma cacatuoides 'Triple Red' and raise some Corydoras sterbai juvies. Plants include: Pogostemon erectus, Limnophila sp 'Wavy', Ludwigia sp 'Red', Nymphoides sp 'Taiwan', Hygrophila lancea, Pygmy chain sword (Helanthium tenellum), Cryptocorye wendtii 'Bronze', Staurogyne repens, Barclaya longifolia, and Bacopa salzmannii.








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High light, no CO2 is not easy. Low light, no CO2 is very possible for plants that are compatible.
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Have you tried sag family of plants I can't kill them if I try. All stem plants are so touchy with me. Anubias nana grow well for me but slow they are under grow beam 500 led which is low light. Java fern under cfl do well but anubias and java fern should be attached to something. Val family does well to under any light condition it just grows differently. I don't use ferts at all but did buy them but too much of a hassle for me, I like my tanks on autopilot with just top offs and monthly 20% change
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Hi Aulonocara,

Here is an example of what you are trying to do....10 gallon; 2X13 watt CFL; Safe-T-Sorb substrate (40#/$10 delivered); heater, hang on back filter, Seachem Flourish Comprehensive and Seachem Flourish Excel.
You pretty much hit it spot on, could you give me a list of those plant's?

No, I've not tried sag's. Are all of the sag family low light?
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The post with the pics is great but I can't keep stems alive long term and I have saf-t-sorb in tanks and CFLs I have bought flourish but don't use it. That's just me. What they have and I have might not work for you. If everything you do turns to algae maybe you have a issue with your water high phosphates or is any sunlight hitting the tank. I have tanks in the basement that have no algae and tanks setup on the first floor setup the same way but by the window and have black, brown, hair and slime algae in spots it's about to get moved.
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Sag does well in any light I have it in med light it stays around 8" but when I bought it it was like 13". I have heard low light makes them grow longer to reach the light but also the complete opposite
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You pretty much hit it spot on, could you give me a list of those plant's?

No, I've not tried sag's. Are all of the sag family low light?
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The tank is next to a window but it never gets hit with direct sunlight.

I think I'm going to finish tearing the tank down then, get the substrate, ferts, and some plants in a week or two.
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The tank is next to a window but it never gets hit with direct sunlight.

I think I'm going to finish tearing the tank down then, get the substrate, ferts, and some plants in a week or two.
Hi Aulonocara,

My tank in on our lower level with no direct or indirect sunlight. I run my 2X13 watt fixture 4.5 hours in the morning and 4.5 hours in the evening. Along with the Corys I have one small Siamese Algae eater and one Otocinclus in the tank as part of the cleaning crew.

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