the holy trinity? - The Planted Tank Forum
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 01-07-2013, 01:56 PM Thread Starter
Algae Grower
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: edinburgh
Posts: 42
the holy trinity?

im a beginner and need to ask: when balancing between light ferts and co2 do you not also need to factor in how many plants you have and what type? im trying to grow a carpet and have been trying to out compete algae but im not doing that well. ive added hygrophelia corymbosa which i know grows quickly at least. I also have attached a clipping of ivy to the tank with roots in the water. They are brilliant at consuming nutrients ( i have their roots in a vivarium and the water is crystal clear). any critisisms or help will be much appreciated. its not poison ivy btw.
uberape is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 11 (permalink) Old 01-07-2013, 02:00 PM
Pixel Prestidigitator
 
GraphicGr8s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: West coast of the east coast of the USA.
Posts: 3,784
By Holy Trinity I thought you meant carrots, onions, and celery

Dilution is the solution for the pollution.
Quote me as saying I was misquoted.
Once you get rid of integrity the rest is a piece of cake.
Here's to our wives and sweethearts - may they never meet.
If you agreed with me we'd both be right.
GraphicGr8s is offline  
post #3 of 11 (permalink) Old 01-07-2013, 04:46 PM
Algae Grower
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Duluth, GA
Posts: 97
Carrots, onions, and celery are a mire poix.

the holy trinity is green peppers, onions, and celery. (at least if you come from Louisiana)
mstamper is offline  
post #4 of 11 (permalink) Old 01-07-2013, 05:42 PM
Algae Grower
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Jefferson City, Missouri
Posts: 37
Quote:
Originally Posted by mstamper View Post
Carrots, onions, and celery are a mire poix.

the holy trinity is green peppers, onions, and celery. (at least if you come from Louisiana)
Only if you are french
trgiboney is offline  
post #5 of 11 (permalink) Old 01-07-2013, 05:45 PM
Algae Grower
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Jefferson City, Missouri
Posts: 37
Uberape

Sorry we are having fun vice helping. It depends on what your plans are for plants. The size of tank etc....
trgiboney is offline  
post #6 of 11 (permalink) Old 01-07-2013, 06:32 PM
Planted Tank Obsessed
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: In an aquarium nearby
Posts: 447
It all boils down to basics. Do you start an aquarium with all the lights on full blast? No. Why? You already found out

Lights need to be reduced until you get some plant mass going. Reducing might also be done by keeping the lights on less time than you do now.

Ferts are a limiting factor to plant growth, if they have plenty than you tune your lights and CO2 until you get everything going.
danielt is offline  
post #7 of 11 (permalink) Old 01-07-2013, 06:53 PM
Algae Grower
 
OrangeSoda's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: New Mexico
Posts: 121
Quote:
Originally Posted by uberape View Post
when balancing between light ferts and co2 do you not also need to factor in how many plants you have and what type?

The size, type and amount of plants you have determine the amount of ferts you need. So I would say it's the beginning of the equation.

________________________________________

N1k0n #58

They asked me to move because I was blocking a fire exit.
If you're flammable and have legs, you are never blocking a fire exit. -Mitch Hedberg
OrangeSoda is offline  
post #8 of 11 (permalink) Old 01-07-2013, 11:53 PM
Planted Tank Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 765
Bread, Butter, Beer
puopg is offline  
post #9 of 11 (permalink) Old 01-08-2013, 12:11 AM
Planted Tank Guru
 
NWA-Planted's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Bentonville, AR
Posts: 3,399
Start your light lower as mentioned get the co2 and fertz going then slowly increase light as needed if needed. It's a pain but once it's balanced it's a breeze.



And everyone it's, beer, beer and beer

Sent from a dark corner in my happy place

Sump Pimp #8
RAOK Clubber #28
NWA-Planted is offline  
post #10 of 11 (permalink) Old 01-08-2013, 02:51 AM
Pixel Prestidigitator
 
GraphicGr8s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: West coast of the east coast of the USA.
Posts: 3,784
Quote:
Originally Posted by mstamper View Post
Carrots, onions, and celery are a mire poix.

the holy trinity is green peppers, onions, and celery. (at least if you come from Louisiana)
Quote:
In different types of cuisines, exist what are referred to as the "Holy Trinities". In one type of Italian cooking, the trinity is onions, carrots, and celery. So I used this to make a simple quinoa salad. I look forward to experimenting with other cuisine's trinities in the near future and will share those as well.
Quote:
Soffritto

  • The French call it mirepoix; Americans call it the holy trinity; the Spanish call it sofrito; and Italians call it soffritto. The term literally means to fry something at a low heat for a short time. It is used to describe sauteed vegetables used as a base for a sauce. While there are variations, the vegetables usually used to prepare soffritto are celery (sedano in Italian), onion (cipolla) and carrot (carota).

Since I am Italian that's how I roll. And it varies by region an type of cooking. Another holy trinity is tomato basil garlic.

For your lighting. Start with a shorter time and work up the length. The plants will let you know without getting inundated with algae which can be a pain to get rid of.

Dilution is the solution for the pollution.
Quote me as saying I was misquoted.
Once you get rid of integrity the rest is a piece of cake.
Here's to our wives and sweethearts - may they never meet.
If you agreed with me we'd both be right.
GraphicGr8s is offline  
post #11 of 11 (permalink) Old 01-19-2013, 01:34 PM Thread Starter
Algae Grower
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: edinburgh
Posts: 42
thanks everybody i forgot i even posted this. by the way its onions, potatoes, tomatoes.
uberape is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the The Planted Tank Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome