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rooting hormone?

so, has anyone ever added rooting hormone to their tanks?

i dont know if its something anyone actually does, but i just added quite a bit of rooting hormone powder to a 5 gallon tank i just planted. its a bit of an experiment. i cant see anything in the tank now because of the "powder", but i figure thats not really a big deal. water changes are easy when its only five gallons.

there are no fish in this tank. its purpose is simply to grow out some tiny fragments of plants i felt would be too small to plant in my main tank, with fish and all.
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It most likely will come off in the water. Try it on emerged plants to see a better difference.

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i dissolved it and added it to the water. i didnt dip the plants in it. its a bit of an odd way of going about it, but i remember extracting the same hormone from willow branches that were chopped up and soaked in water. plants to be rooted were simply soaked in the water. i figured if it works with willow extract in water, why not my aquarium plants? after a week or so, ill do a water change and see how it did.
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this is what i mean. the rooting hormone powder is completely dissolved into the water. it may make no difference, but who knows. maybe a treatment of rooting hormone like this can be of benefit? either way, i will only let the tank run like this for a week. im not afraid of cloudy water, not in the slightest. i have never done water changes for cloudy water, not even for green water blooms. cloudy conditions usually take care of themselves(though i dont expect this to do so.)

the tank has composted cow manure mixed with kitty litter as a substrate, capped with paver base. the plants are all less than two centimeters tall. they were planted yesterday. i am also running diy co2, with about 4k lumens from cfl bulbs, 6500k.
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It could work if the stem can absorb it. I'm interested to see if this works. what plants did you use. Next cutting the stem a little a apply the hormone to it, let it sit while stay moist for some time then plant into the tank.

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i used fragments of rotala indica(probably actually rotundifolia though) and m. umbrosum. the fragments had been floating in a 65g for a week, long enough to give them time to shoot off some tiny roots and a bit of new growth.

btw, what branch are you in? im army.
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this is what i mean. the rooting hormone powder is completely dissolved into the water. it may make no difference, but who knows. maybe a treatment of rooting hormone like this can be of benefit? either way, i will only let the tank run like this for a week. im not afraid of cloudy water, not in the slightest. i have never done water changes for cloudy water, not even for green water blooms. cloudy conditions usually take care of themselves(though i dont expect this to do so.)

the tank has composted cow manure mixed with kitty litter as a substrate, capped with paver base. the plants are all less than two centimeters tall. they were planted yesterday. i am also running diy co2, with about 4k lumens from cfl bulbs, 6500k.
cow manure will most likely fry your plants.

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i used fragments of rotala indica(probably actually rotundifolia though) and m. umbrosum. the fragments had been floating in a 65g for a week, long enough to give them time to shoot off some tiny roots and a bit of new growth.

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I'm in the Air Force stationed in Korea right now. Going to McChord AB next.

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the cow manure wont fry my plants. i have been using it for several years now.

my dad went to korea when he was in the airforce. he always told me that the airforce would treat me better than any other branch. being young and dumb, i joined the airborne infantry instead. as of late though, i am reclassing into a different MOS.
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I'm in the Air Force stationed in Korea right now. Going to McChord AB next.
Hi Patriot,

When you get to McChord and get around to setting up your tank visit The Fish Store in Seattle for plants....along with the generic FL plants they buy a lot from GSAS members so you will find a lot of plants that you don't typically find in a LFS. Also please visit a GSAS meeting as a guest, excellent speakers (last meeting was Christel Kasselmann!) and you won't want to miss the 'mini-auction' at the end....fantastic plants and bargain prices.

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Hi Patriot,

When you get to McChord and get around to setting up your tank visit The Fish Store in Seattle for plants....along with the generic FL plants they buy a lot of GSAS members so you will find a lot of plants that you don't typically find in a LFS. Also please visit a GSAS meeting as a guest, excellent speakers (last meeting was Christel Kasselmann!) and you won't want to miss the 'mini-auction' at the end....fantastic plants and bargain prices.

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Thank you so much for the info! That will make things a lot more interesting for sure.

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Rooting Hormone - Should work, if you pulled the plants, applied the powder or gel and allowed some time out of the tank for the rooting hormone to be absorbed into the cutting site. It works by being drawn into a fresh cut and being absorbed by the plant at the 'wound' site. Same goes for trimmed roots.

I would pull the plants, make my cuts, apply the powder, wrap in damp paper towel, and place in the veggies drawer of my fridge for a few hours. Then replant.

The cool damp environment will allow time for the rooting hormone to be used by the plant without undue stress to the plant.

Adding it directly would have a very low probability of working.
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But what aquatic plants would take so long to root that you would need it? It seems they root pretty fast.

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When I use rooting hormone it's to save a very stressed out plant, typically from shipping problems. I also use it to transition submersed plants to emersed growth.
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But does putting a stressed out plant through that process put it under more stress? You have to cut into it, wrap it in paper towels and then throw it in the fridge for a few hours. Rooting also uses energy to produce too right? Can you help me understand how does rooting hormones help stress? I'm confused now.

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