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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 12-28-2004, 02:17 AM Thread Starter
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Landscaping program?

Has anyone tried using a landscaping program (like one for laying out the shrubs and trees in your yard) to design a layout for a planted tank? No sense in reinventing the wheel, if anyone knows what works...

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post #2 of 16 (permalink) Old 12-28-2004, 08:43 AM
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Well the closest thing is Dutch aquariums which are designed much the same way as an English garden.

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Guess I didn't expess myself clearly, that's what I get for staying up past my bedtime. I was thinking of using something like http://www.broderbund.com/jump.jsp?i...iProductID=438 to get an idea of what a layout would look like in 3D.

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Ya, know, that's an idea . I've got "Complete Landdesigner" (Sierra, no longer available) and if you're into graphics you can make masks and stuff and custom make plants for those that don't come with the program. Hmmmm....

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I looked into this at one time. Didn't really have much luck. I think you would have to model stem plants, etc, since none of that is available.
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Cool, I just found a free program called PlantStudio http://www.kurtz-fernhout.com/PlantS...quirements.htm for making 3D models of plants. Looks promising... Seems to work on Windows XP as well. The .3DS files should import into at least some of the landscape design software packages out there. There are also links to some free plant models (some of which are actually aquatic). Rosehawke, which version of Complete Landdesigner do you have? There are still some copies of their software floating around for sale on the net, even though Sierra is long gone. I've been monkeying around with a trial version of Broderbund's 3D Home Architect, but haven't really spent enough time with it yet to see if it will work. They also make a landscape version, but I couldn't find a trial copy.

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Punch Software makes a landscape program among their many design tools. I'm not sure if they would work for the aquarium.
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program as in software? Cant help you there, sounds interesting though, but way too time consuming for me

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Zapus, it's version 5.5, Complete Landdesigner. It was "free" for me as I was a beta tester for the thing. Free was relative as the thing was so glitchy when I was testing it I kept having to write little reports. Even after the release it still had some glitches. I wasn't really surprised when I heard that Sierra was going belly up; every piece of software I had from the company always had something going on with it. The "Complete Home" for instance, really had/has some problems.

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If some one on here that was a computer programer or someting could make a program that would let you pick the size of tank, dimenions, and the lights and substrate and such, then let you place plants anywhere, you could try out new aquascapes without messing up your aquascape in your tank, although that is half the fun! lol
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Zapus, it's version 5.5, Complete Landdesigner. It was "free" for me as I was a beta tester for the thing. Free was relative as the thing was so glitchy when I was testing it I kept having to write little reports. Even after the release it still had some glitches. I wasn't really surprised when I heard that Sierra was going belly up; every piece of software I had from the company always had something going on with it. The "Complete Home" for instance, really had/has some problems.
I have always disliked Sierra. They were one of the first software companies to adopt the strategy of buying out as many smaller independent companies they could. Somehow they would take the great smaller companies that were producing great products and ruin them. That juggernaut is finally about dead and EA has pretty much taken their place.
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Seems to me aquascaping is an art, and maybe a program automating it would ruin the creativity aspects of the whole endeavor.

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John ...those are exactly my thoughts....that would take the whole fun out of it...plus landscaping would be completely different in terms of aquascaping....you would have to pick just the right plant...

good constructive thought though...

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Hey!!! I posted some pictures of my 40 gal once and then someone took PhotoStudio or something like that and rearrainged and added plants to make my tank look like it was a new aquascape. It was kind of neat. I guess.

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Seems to me aquascaping is an art, and maybe a program automating it would ruin the creativity aspects of the whole endeavor.
The idea is simply to use the program as a tool to get an idea of what various plant combinations and arrangements might look like, to get a better idea for spacing, etc. Seems to me that this would stimulate creativity and allow "what-iffing" without waiting months for plants to grow in to see results. The PlantStudio program is relatively simple to use, but it may take some work to produce a plant that resembles a known species. It was intended to model dicots only, though I have seen some grass-like plant models generated with it. One really neat feature is an aging animation that allows you to virtually "grow" your plants. I tried importing a crypt-like plant into the Broderbund program, but it wound up resembling a piece of furniture more than a plant. Not sure exactly what went awry.

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