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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 01-09-2017, 10:43 AM Thread Starter
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First of all, hi everyone. I've been reading bits and pieces on this forum for a while now and yesterday I brought my own 13 gallon tank home.


It's a used tank, and I bought it fully equiped, fully filled and with livestock. In the tank live about 15 different shrimp, 5 helena snails and 3 undefined algea eaters. it's a dennerle tank with a HOB filter, a heater and a LED light. It's filled with black gravel, and some little hiding tubes.


And plants! it has loads and loads of similar sized plants. there is no big or small, just loads of plants. some have been exposed during transit and are now floating round. Also there seems to be quite a lot of debris in the gravel now all shaken up by the moving.


I would like to make a nice aquascape with a rock or some wood in the background, and plants of various height, but i don't know where to start.


1. is the setup itself sufficient, and how do I check?
2. is it worth keeping the plants or at least some of it or do I start over?
3. do I need to treat the water with anything in particular after moving? I took about 4/5th of the water with me.
4. do I clean the gravel, and if yes, how?


pictures in the next posts. Thanks in advance for helping yet another newbie out.



There are also some algae growing on several leaves.


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post #2 of 10 (permalink) Old 01-10-2017, 11:08 AM
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Hmmm, not sure how helpful I can be but here goes:

1) Not sure what you mean by self sufficient? Equipment-wise, if these plants grew in this setup then they should continue to do so unless you add new plants with different requirements.
2) Definitely worth keeping plants. Keep what you like, add new things etc. It's all up to you. Depending on your changes you may have to adjust the setup (lights, etc).
3) Do you mean fertilizers? Potentially. Depends on what your plans are (see #2). I personally don't use any, but I also don't have rapidly growing high-demand plants and I am lazy.
4) You can...gravel attachment on water change siphon works well. I personally wouldn't go too OCD clean on that though...and it doesn't hurt the plants to have nutrients in the gravel.

Methinks you should envision what you want it to look like, and then figure out how to get there.
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1. is the setup itself sufficient, and how do I check?
Just wait. Start with the lights on for 6 hours a day and see if there is algae growing or if the plants are dying off. Adjust light based on what you see.

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2. is it worth keeping the plants or at least some of it or do I start over?
Most of those plants look like crypts, and EXCELLENT beginner and low light plant. Keep then, or, give them to me

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3. do I need to treat the water with anything in particular after moving? I took about 4/5th of the water with me.
Taking water with you is a misnomer made by pet stores and salt water tanks. You'll need to treat it with dechlorinator if you are using tap water to fill the tank. Check Amazon for "Prime", it's the best.

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4. do I clean the gravel, and if yes, how?
You can, but it isn't necessary in my opinion. A gravel vacuum on a hose/siphon works. But the plants enjoy the nutrient rich substrate. I usually pick out the dead plant matter and don't worry about the rest.

Good luck.
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post #4 of 10 (permalink) Old 01-10-2017, 12:49 PM
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I would say you need to do some rethinking, the plants are growing nicely, but they don't scale down very well for small scapes.
I would look for smaller leafed, more petite plants. All personal opnion.

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I agree with all this I never clean the gravel the plants like it to much but as Nordic said you may want to pick a day when you have some time than rearrange things so largest plants are in the back than get some grassy low growers like sag. subulata for the front.The plants look healthy but they are just all mixed up lol me too..
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post #6 of 10 (permalink) Old 01-10-2017, 06:23 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks all of you for your advice. In the meantime i have been trimming back the plants, so they are a bit more defined and had a bit of a cleanup.

I am at the moment thinking about what i want the tank to look like, in the meantime i just keep it running an try to get and keep it as healthy as possible. I have discovered some algea growing (not too bad but rather fix it sooner than later), a baby shrimp and a lot of Helena eggs.

Maybe aquascaping is the wrong word, i shall try to find a picture of what i would love (but i am aware this might be a bit much for a beginner).



After a trim and cleanup.

My water seems a bit blue (also without the background) anyone an idea why that might be?


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post #8 of 10 (permalink) Old 01-10-2017, 06:44 PM Thread Starter
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help, it's a jungle in there

http://exoticfish.club/2016/03/15/5-...y-beautiful-s/

http://showcase.aquatic-gardeners.org/2013/show76.html


All the tanks that continue up and out with wood, rocks and or plants i find awesome. Long way to go but a girl can dream.
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post #9 of 10 (permalink) Old 01-10-2017, 07:02 PM
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I see you topped up the tank. It is best not to let it get that low.
It causes an increase in dissolved solids. Shrimp like stable conditions, so you may have to do 1 or 2 10% changes per week.

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post #10 of 10 (permalink) Old 01-10-2017, 07:26 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks, it was that low because my Bucket was still warming up when i took the picture.

Still figuring out how much and how often to feed them. With the tank came loads and loads of different food and water treatments, but without all the booklets.




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