My club has visited his palce a few times but I couldn't attend. He has really nice fish. Sounds like you need to be part of a club to visit. If your ever in the hudson valley, you should check out Atlantis Fish Hatchery. They have tons of Africans, as well as Apisto, Angels, Cories, etc. Check them out at http://cichlids.net. They're open only on Sat. from 10-2.