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Originally Posted by Badcopnofishtank
How soon do you start with the full EI dosing with a newly planted amazonia tank?
I have heard that you should wait a week and do at least 2 W/C before starting your ferts.??
BTW Tom- I really like using the EI, it has been a huge help for me, thank you.
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I do not wait, why should I?
Does that help?
Not that I've seen nor noted.
I've done many tanks thus far using this combo and quickly switched over to it after noting the differences.
I do water changes 2-3x a week in the start up phase, so that means after the 3-4 day
If you folks listen to the details with Amano, he and Jeff Senske also do lots of water changes in the start uphase, 1-2 months and then down to once a week.
We all did this routine independently.
My argument is this: why not stop dosing after you trim plants after the start up phase?
Why not wait a week after a trim?
If you add enough plant biomass from day one and do water changes, there's no issues.
You provide enough nutrients for both the water column and the sediment that way.
Can you do it fairly well without dosing the water column other than traces + K+? Sure.
You can even delete those dosings for the first few months even if you use the lighting correctly and CO2. But will the plants grow in better with dosing?
Yes and yes.
You folks have to try
both sides of things, most just assume one method, and do not try to disprove or show a reason not to do the water column dosing.
Then they tell others that they do not need to add ferts to the water column or that it might be "bad", without even having tried it.
I suppose ignorance is a method also
I'm not saying you cannot do it without any ferts...........maybe some traces..........
This is nothing new either.
Soil substrates and older methods are born out here using ADA substrate methods, essentially using soil, Amano even tells you this, that the ADA As is clay + soil etc.
So are soil substrate methods many folks that use ADA AS have done?
Not hardly..............very few ADA converts would stoop so low as to use soil and sand methods:-)
ADA As is less mess and better(grains still retain the NH4 inside them vs a large layered effect), but both have the same things in them and ago along similar time frames.
Takes some time due to NH4(and why ADA uses lots of media and carbon etc and water changes till the NH4 is well oxidized after about 1 month or so)
Regards,
Tom Barr