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post #1 of 6 (permalink) Old 09-22-2005, 08:47 AM Thread Starter
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Illegal in California

So far, I've been told that the following are illegal in california:

Live Bloodworms (sale of)
Sunset Hygro (sale of)
Phyllanthus Fluitans (importation of)

And a website states that they don't ship live plants to California.

What's the truth?

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post #2 of 6 (permalink) Old 09-22-2005, 01:23 PM
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They are probably on th invasive species list for your state.

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I'd have to not believe the live bloodworms part. I seem to remember one of the reputable lfs' selling them (bloodworms).

Sunset Hygro is not distinguished from any of the H. Polyspermas. And they are all noxious weeds.

As for people not shipping to California...California basically treats itself like its own country - and as such requires, IIRC, a phytosanitary certificate on imported plants.

Tom (Plantbrain) is really the expert on this stuff, though.


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post #4 of 6 (permalink) Old 09-26-2005, 03:13 AM
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Originally Posted by turbomkt
California basically treats itself like its own country - and as such requires, IIRC, a phytosanitary certificate on imported plants.
Lol... working in a nursery, we even need phyto certificates to get plants from Southern California to Central CA. For certain counties, we need a "Glasswinged Sharpshooter" certificate. They have blue tag. Just random bits of wisdom...
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post #5 of 6 (permalink) Old 10-04-2005, 04:47 PM
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Hygro. polysperma (and all of its variants) are illegal to sell or import in all of the U.S., I think. Not that people bother to adhere to this law... In California, there's also a ban on Bacopa monnieri (moneywort) but I always see the stuff being sold at P*tco. Water sprite - Ceratopteris thalictroides is illegal, but C. siliquosa is permitted. Cabomba caroliniana is illegal, but the other species are okay, I believe. And although I've never seen Hydrilla, my understanding is that it's illegal, too.

It wouldn't surprise me if Phyllanthus were illegal to import. I think there is a similar law that applies to water hyacinth (Eichhornia crassipes?) - it can be sold within the state, but it can't be shipped into California from outside.

There are also bans on Pomacea canaliculata (apple snail), and possibly bridgesii ("mystery" snail) as well. There *should* be a ban on Colombian ramshorns (Marisa cornuarietis) if there's one on the other two snails, but I see them being sold all the time. Anything that could potentially wreak havoc on California's agriculture...

I know that Albany Aquarium adheres to these laws very strictly. The owner works closely with the California Department of Agriculture. They have to inspect his plant shipments (and now, apparently, the plants have to go through a second inspection with Alameda County) so he's very careful about what he orders. If you want to know the status of a particular plant, you can probably find out from them.

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I think i saw all those for sale in various stores. These were asian owned though.

They should make an institution that branches off of homeland security to protect us from the dangers of our aquarium plants.

They will employ various search and seize warrants for our aquariums and detain them in unknown locations.
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