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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 09-30-2013, 12:33 PM Thread Starter
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DHG vs UG

Ok gonna be starting a new tank I am thinking about a nice foreground carpet. I have done glosso in my current tank and I am over it. I am trying to decide between dwarf hairgrass and UG. I have tried DHG in my current tank 3 different times and I could never get it to take. I have never tried UG. Which one has greater chance of success? What should I try?

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DHG will be far easier to carpet with than UG.

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DHG will be far easier to carpet with than UG.
Basically saying DHG is just easier to care for? wonder what I was missing in my prior failed attempts. I have been able to grow most anything just not that. One thing I wanted to improve on was my substrate, I had basic gravel before and will have ecocomplete in the new tank, I think the smaller granuals will help.
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Basically saying DHG is just easier to care for? wonder what I was missing in my prior failed attempts. I have been able to grow most anything just not that. One thing I wanted to improve on was my substrate, I had basic gravel before and will have ecocomplete in the new tank, I think the smaller granuals will help.
I have DHG and eco complete. I think its not a good match, even established DHG unroots easily and its a pain to get it started. What I did was let the DHG float first to let them root and when I plant them I plant them deeper than normally suggested otherwise bottom dewller fish will unroot them. Since the eco granules that settle on top are bigger I don't think the DHG will rot unlike if you planted them deep in other finer substrate.

Lighting - Summertime I only burst my 2nd T5HO, the DHG does not grow during this time, it only grows when both T5HOs are on all the time. Its on a 38G I think the lights are about 19" up. So it needs a lot of light.

So think about the other plants in your tank, if you mix high light and slow growers you will get algae unless you have a perfect balance in your tank.

Fertz - I do modified IE and root tabs. I also have a layer of laterite and peat underneath but not sure how much that contributes to the DHG I put those in mainly for the swords.

CO2- tons, smoked my Amanos at one time. :-(

Easy care? I don't think so. I think they make the most mess too. They do look great when it carpets.

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ya thanks for the advice. I have made attempts at DHG in the past that failed but I was short on the lighting. This I know. I may try UG just to see if I can kill it as easily.
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I wouldn't do UG with eco.


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I wouldn't do UG with eco.
reason?
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It has a pretty flimsy root system so it would have a really hard time staying in the substrate.


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It has a pretty flimsy root system so it would have a really hard time staying in the substrate.
gotcha thanks for the advice
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I voted UG but I didn't read enough. If you are having trouble with DHG, UG will be much more challenging. If you like DHG, I would go with DHG "belem". There are a few varieties but the belem means it grows a lot shorter. In a 55 DHG can easily be a background plant unless trimmed consistently (painful to clean up the mess, only for it to bounce back quickly in good conditions) where belem will remain low and will not need nearly the maintenance. I personally find HC to be easy, but others will say differently. I think many struggle because they put way too much light over it than it needs and get algae, the plant is pretty easy to grow.
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ya maybe I am leaining away from UG again. I dknow, I should be able to grow DHG I can grow everything else. Maybe I will try it again in new substrate with more light. See what happens, I like the advice on the belem.
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