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In the market for a great dense carpet plant, any ideas?

I was wondering what would be a nice compact and dense carpet plant? I have had Hydro sp. Japan, but that wasnt too dense for me. Grew well, but didnt like the fact that I had to press down in order for it to grow tighter, and after all that it really didnt become compact and dense.

What carpet plants would you all suggest besides Riccia and Hydro sp. Japan?

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Eleocharis sp 'belem' grows extremely dense after a while.

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In the market for a great dense carpet plant, any ideas?

UG would be a good choice. I had great success with ET. You can see it in my 120p journal. Look at the last set of pictures. It would fit your needs as well.

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UG would be a good choice. I had great success with ET. You can see it in my 120p journal. Look at the last set of pictures. It would fit your needs as well.
Holy Cow, thats a beautiful tank! That would be a plant I am looking for. Whats the name of the plant, besides UG? lol

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Eleocharis sp 'belem' grows extremely dense after a while.

I should have mentioned that I have tried this as well. It does grow fairly dense, take a while, but it does...unfortunaly it grows to tall for the small 10 gallon that I plan on using.

I was think UG (whatever this is, lol) or baby tear/dwarf baby tears as the substrtate.

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Heck, even glosso would be nice to have.

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I was wondering what would be a nice compact and dense carpet plant? I have had Hydro sp. Japan, but that wasnt too dense for me. Grew well, but didnt like the fact that I had to press down in order for it to grow tighter, and after all that it really didnt become compact and dense.

What carpet plants would you all suggest besides Riccia and Hydro sp. Japan?
Hi Cinbos,

I would recommend Marselea minutea which does well in most conditions. Just an FYI that offering to buy or sell outside the FST sub-forum is not condoned by our Mods.

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I should have mentioned that I have tried this as well. It does grow fairly dense, take a while, but it does...unfortunaly it grows to tall for the small 10 gallon that I plan on using.

I was think UG (whatever this is, lol) or baby tear/dwarf baby tears as the substrtate. I am in the market for either of these. If anyone has any leads or knows of anyone selling then I am definitly interested.
You should of clarified the tank size and max height of the carpet you want to achieve.

Anyways, here's my 5 gallon with Eleocharis belem, just because. And this was before I mowed it down.


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Thanks for the reminder.

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e. belem. will grow VERY dense. and if you have enough substrate, it wont uproot, since it grows its roots very deep, unlike HC and UG which only really grow into the top .75". however, if you dont have enough substrate, it will grab all the substrate and eventually just float up with some of your substrate. only had that happen once though.
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Hey antbug, was this the plant you were referring to as the UG...

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You should of clarified the tank size and max height of the carpet you want to achieve.

Anyways, here's my 5 gallon with Eleocharis belem, just because. And this was before I mowed it down.

Wait, is Belem not the same as dwarf hair grass?

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e. belem. will grow VERY dense. and if you have enough substrate, it wont uproot, since it grows its roots very deep, unlike HC and UG which only really grow into the top .75". however, if you dont have enough substrate, it will grab all the substrate and eventually just float up with some of your substrate. only had that happen once though.
yeah I have a nice amount of substrate for the 10, andI am also looking for a nice cap for the 10 as well. So plenting of substrate.

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UG would be a good choice. I had great success with ET. You can see it in my 120p journal. Look at the last set of pictures. It would fit your needs as well.
Hey Ant, got a off topic question. What is your background? I know you said vinyl, but how did you apply it? It looks really clean and nice! My background for my 125 gallon is no where near as nice.

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Wait, is Belem not the same as dwarf hair grass?
Two different variants. Eleocharis acicularis is the regular dwarf hairgrass, the one most common in the US. It grows to 6 inches tall and has straight blades. Eleocharis sp 'Belem' aka Japanese hairgrass only grows to a max height of 2.5 inches while having leaf blades that curve to the side in every direction. Both will grow dense over time with enough pruning. However, in your case, Eleocharis sp 'Belem' would be best for you. It grows like a weed if you use pressurized CO2 and fertilize regularly.

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