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co2 is being diffused by an inline GLA diffuser. This one actually

http://greenleafaquariums.com/co2-di...ffuser-12.html
add enough co2 till fish start to stress from it, do it slowly. what are the water parameter? how are the inlet and outlet setup for the filter?

you wont believe this but my friend grew nice carpet of hairgrass and Glosso under one 100 watts cfl bulbs sitting at 22" above substrate.
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Inlet is at one side of tank, outlet is at other....the diffuser is setup on the outlet side. fine mist inside the tank. I don't have any fish, so I wasn't worried about fish stressing out. I have quite a bit of co2 in there. The glosso is growing very well, it's just growing really tall. It's a beautiful green color, it's just not growing across, it's growing up. Right now, the plant is around an inch and a half tall, but a nice green color. I think it's the width of the tank that plays a part. My tank is 18" tall, but it's also 18" wide, and only a 5" wide fixture on top. It leaves a lot on each side that just isn't being lit very much.....
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plant uses lot of K+, which to me seems like you are lacking big time.

dose nothing, do water changes for 2 days (80% water change if possible)

after that, follow this dosing and see what happen.

2-3x week KNO3 1/4tsp, K2SO4 1/4tsp, 1/16tsp KH2PO4, 1/4 tsp csm+b

add extra Fe through chelate iron, EDTA etc
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that's what I am dosing at the moment......except for KNO3.........My nitrates are through the roof.
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Inlet is at one side of tank, outlet is at other....the diffuser is setup on the outlet side. fine mist inside the tank. I don't have any fish, so I wasn't worried about fish stressing out. I have quite a bit of co2 in there. The glosso is growing very well, it's just growing really tall. It's a beautiful green color, it's just not growing across, it's growing up. Right now, the plant is around an inch and a half tall, but a nice green color. I think it's the width of the tank that plays a part. My tank is 18" tall, but it's also 18" wide, and only a 5" wide fixture on top. It leaves a lot on each side that just isn't being lit very much.....
i still dont think its an light issue, if it was then you should have seen some growth in the middle of the tank where all the lights are hitting, it equally looks the same. you said your glosso is growing then how can you say that its an light issue?

you did not provide the water parameter?
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because when you don't have enough light, your glosso grows tall and not short and across like it should. It's just not growing runners. It just keeps getting taller and taller.....
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water parameters are Amm 0, Nitrite 0, nitrate 40-80ppm, ph right now is at 6.0. Substrate is ADA Amazonia II and power sand.
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that's what I am dosing at the moment......except for KNO3.........My nitrates are through the roof.
have you ever thought why they are off the roof, organic build up, tank newly setup, good backteria lacking in the filter etc.

there is a 2 different type of nitrate, one from organic buildup and one from fertilizer, plant dont really use much of organic build up nitrate, they use fertilizer based nitrate. that is why your plants arent using any nitrate and they are turning yellow.
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and the glosso is pearling
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the tank is only a few weeks old. the only nitrate in the tank is from fertilizer, plus whatever water I top off the tank with is from an established tank. I know the tank is new, but I have never had plants fail to grow just because the tank was new.
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the tank is only a few weeks old. the only nitrate in the tank is from fertilizer, plus whatever water I top off the tank with is from an established tank. I know the tank is new, but I have never had plants fail to grow just because the tank was new.

so you are saying you only top off the evoprated water????? if yes then this is your main problem. you suppose to do atleast 50% water change, i do 70%+ on mine.

gloso also tend to grow upward when its not getting enough flow and co2.
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How does he have organic buildup if he have no fish? Give it another week and see if the plant are sending new leaf it just look like they are transitioning from Emerse to immerse you should see new leaf sprouting soon and the older leaf brownout and meltaway.

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gloso also tend to grow upward when its not getting enough flow and co2.
Plant's grow upward when they're short on light. They reach up because light is naturally stronger the higher off the ground you go.

I have plenty of flow in my tank, 2000+gph total in my 95G and my plants still grow upward because I restrict my lighting to reduce algae. Also running Co2 at an insane bubble count.
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How does he have organic buildup if he have no fish? Give it another week and see if the plant are sending new leaf it just look like they are transitioning from Emerse to immerse you should see new leaf sprouting soon and the older leaf brownout and meltaway.

consider decaying or dead plants

good luck with your glosso, you wont see any changes till you start chaning the water.
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Plant's grow upward when they're short on light. They reach up because light is naturally stronger the higher off the ground you go.

I have plenty of flow in my tank, 2000+gph total in my 95G and my plants still grow upward because I restrict my lighting to reduce algae. Also running Co2 at an insane bubble count.

my glosoo grow upward when they dont get enough flow and co2 under 2x54w t5ho (catalina fixture). simply adjusting the spray bar fixed this issue.
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