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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 10-30-2004, 02:06 AM Thread Starter
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java fern problems help!

First off I have searched the archives and found no answers.
Here's my tank specs,ph 6.8, dkh 4.5 nitrate 20ppm,co2 22ppm , phos almost undetectable, iron level is good as well. 3.4wpg. I dose with pmdd btw
Anyhow all other plants grow like weeds, hygro stricta, water sprite, cabomba.
Anyhow my javas seem to have light coloured leaves, with translucent tips and black dead patches. It gives off lots baby ferns but they never seem to do well.
My Crinum thaianum's keep developing small rusty holes on new growth that enlarge slowly.
I have very little algae in the tank except for some also on the ferns.
I'd really like to have more of a "gareth fern factory" so this is frustrating me.
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post #2 of 9 (permalink) Old 10-30-2004, 02:32 AM
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The first thing that strikes me is you did not mention dosing potassium. Thats a must, the paling tips could be a potassium deficiency. Also when my ferns stall in growth or luster, they respond well to a good root trimming and trimming of older , baby rearing leaves. How about water current ? If you have them stuck in a corner somewhere or a low current spot they tend to slow also.
Just some things to think about.
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I am dosing with pmdd so, mgso4, k2so4,some kno3 and trace ferts. I guess I could try upping the potassium sulfate. The ferns are right in the centre of the tank directly in the spray bar flow so they get good fresh current. I'll try some trimming and and dose some extra potassium. My phosphates are really low so I am wondering if I should dose a little phosphate....?
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post #4 of 9 (permalink) Old 11-09-2004, 01:13 AM
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I think the translucent tips are a good thing. It's your java fern growing.
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The translucent leaves are in fact a good sign. They are an indication of new growth. The leaves will become opaque and will be fine.

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post #6 of 9 (permalink) Old 11-12-2004, 04:21 PM
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Correct me if i am wrong but i thought java fern growing lots of plantlets on the tips was not a sign of good health but of it trying to reproduce before it dies due to conditions it does not like. I seem to remember reading that somewhere if you want your java fern to produce plantlets like mad just try and kill it.

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I had java fern plants product lots and lots and baby plantlets and the mother plant kept growing at a nice rate too


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Good to know i always considered that a bad sign

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yea, my plant has not only quadrupled in size...but I've gotten at least a dozen new plants off of it.
If you check my sig, my fern is wedged in the driftwood 'arch' on the left side of my 75g.

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