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post #1 of 178 (permalink) Old 12-31-2016, 01:26 PM Thread Starter
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All, please help looking for some advice I recently setup a new tank fluval Roma 240 litres, CO2, Ada substrate, 2xt8 bulbs and 2x54 w t5 bulbs so lots of light...

I was doing a dry start but gave up... My baby tears are now growing but my other plants keep getting problems.

The spirals have almost completely died after being in for 1 week and the Star Grass is growing like crazy but getting little brown specs (holes) on top leaves. I have no fish since this is a new tank 3 week with water and have gone though 1bottle of 600g co2 per week so plenty of co2.

Can anyone help please? I would appreciate any advice.

Also the reason why the Christmas moss died was because it was under high light during dry start. Since putting water in it has started to grow back show sign of life again.



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Please help??? See pictures can you see the dots appearing on the star grass and the spirals look dead


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Well, it's certainly not a nitrogen deficiency

What's your fert schedule/dosing?
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Well, it's certainly not a nitrogen deficiency



What's your fert schedule/dosing?


Hello, well I just received some Potasium so dosed that 10ml per 100l and it's a 240 tank.

- easyCarbo 10ml daily (thinking maybe it's this)
-profito plant ferts. 25ml weekly which seems to have brought the Christmas moss back to life. Did a direct dose I.e syringe in water.
- fluval Cycle biological enhancer to cycle the tank.

That's it.

Any ideas? What about the hydrogen Peroxide think it's 12% I sprayed that in the water to kill some algae.

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Well, it's certainly not a nitrogen deficiency



What's your fert schedule/dosing?


Also some additional pictures of the Christmas moss recovering and the close ups of the star grass to help your diagnosis? Thanks.


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Also some additional pictures of the Christmas moss recovering and the close ups of the star grass to help your diagnosis? Thanks.


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Could it be the light? I have the lights on from 1pm until 11pm = 10 hours.

I have the original 2x T8 that came with the fluval Roma 240 and the additional 2x T5 that I put on as I wanted to upgrade the lights.

Any thoughts welcome?

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Ada substrate,
Are daily water changes of 50% recommended with new substrate?
Ammonia burn is a great possibility.

Swimming is not that difficult.

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Are daily water changes of 50% recommended with new substrate?
Ammonia burn is a great possibility.


Not daily. By daily I think I have done 6 90% water changes since setting up the new tank. In 3 weeks but then I read that when cycling a tank not to do any water changes? I thought ammonia is good for plants? However I am a complete newbie so could be way off.

Should I do a water change? I thought the idea was to wait until the Nitrate levels rise then do one? They have just started to rise as of yesterday. See pic.




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Have read somewhere on this forum that 1st week or so recommended daily WC's with new ADA substrate.
Diana had a planted tank cycling process that recommended 2ppm when stocked with plants.

I will see if I can find the post.
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Have read somewhere on this forum that 1st week or so recommended daily WC's with new ADA substrate.

Diana had a planted tank cycling process that recommended 2ppm when stocked with plants.



I will see if I can find the post.


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I did start the dry start method for 1 month prior to filling if that helps. Wasn't long enough but had to do something to save the Christmas Moss and baby tears (Cuba) which are now recovering.


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Fishless cycling killing my plants, any advice?

Here is the link to Diana's post, displayed many times.

Search for starting up ADA soils too.

Swimming is not that difficult.
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Fishless cycling killing my plants, any advice?



Here is the link to Diana's post, displayed many times.



Search for starting up ADA soils too.


Link doesn't seem to work?


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I just tried from computer and okay.

Ada aquasoil water changes
Here is another thread from just now that has the other nano tank link I recommend reading.

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I just tried from computer and okay.



Ada aquasoil water changes

Here is another thread from just now that has the other nano tank link I recommend reading.


Many thanks. I will take a look on the laptop. I think you could be right it maybe what's causing it.


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