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post #16 of 43 (permalink) Old 02-09-2003, 06:16 PM Thread Starter
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No I wasn't confused. I was stating what the directions on the package said to do. If it's going to cloud the water, I'll try following the directions and rinse it to see if that helps.

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post #17 of 43 (permalink) Old 02-09-2003, 06:54 PM
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Now I'm confused, lol! What type of laterite do you have? If your laterite is a powder substance, then I wouldn't rinse it, you would only end up turning it to mud.

Flourite you can rinse and will help from clouding the water greatly...

What type of laterite do you have, maybe that can help me understand what you woulod be rinsing...

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The product I have is called First Layer Pure Laterite. Pretty pricey at the lfs. Found the 55oz version online for same price as the 20oz at lfs.

If you remember that candy that fizzled in your mouth, pop rocks or something like that, this product resembles that except the clay red color.

First step of the directions is to rinse.

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If you deicde youw nt to add laterite to your gravel, mix it with just a lil bit of wter and freeze it in an ince cube tray.. Then, just stick them into the gravel under the plants, while frozen of course.
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OK, when I added laterite, it was this powder stuff and if you rinsed it, then it would have turned to mud.. I understand what you have, and if it says to rinse it on the directions, then that is probably the best thing to do (duh!).

Pooky's suggestion is a good one. I would try adding a little of the laterite first just using the directions, and if that seems to cloud your water, I would try the ice cube thing.

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post #21 of 43 (permalink) Old 02-09-2003, 11:17 PM Thread Starter
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Pooky -- that does sound like a really good idea. My only concern is that the iced laterite would float and be hard to keep on the bottom long enough to cover with gravel.

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Laterite is no miracle cure.... it is probably the biggest mess makin waste of time you could ever use unless you are startin a brand new tank.
If you have an existing tank and add Jobes, Flourish Tabs, Tetra Initial Sticks etc..... you will get equal or better results....
Laterite is crap in my opinion unless it is buried deep in a "new" substrate.... adding it can do more harm then good in an established aquarium.
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I'm starting to think I wasted money on the flourite. I washed it ten times and it's still muddy. Wondering if there will be anything left after I finish rinsing it. I decided to freeze some to see if I can add it without making too much of a mess.

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If its "muddy" or it "dissolves" then I hate to say it but you aint got Flourite... :sad:
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I agree with that statement. The Flourite Red can be really dusty. But if one uses the proper technique you can have it ready to go in the tank in about three rinses. All you really want to do is get the dust off. Not get rid of the fines. When I was setting up my 55 gallon tank it took me about 20 minutes to rinse three bags of Flourite and 40 lbs of gravel. Then I was very careful about how I added the water and the tank was clear in about an hour.
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Ah I didn't really mean muddy, I meant the color of mud. I froze some last night and will add it under the substrate here in a few minutes. Didn't make it out to look for flourite at another lfs.

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I think there is confusion here on my part... you said Flourite in a post when you are actually adding Laterite it appears... good luck
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If it is regular Flourite, I never got mine to "run clear" from rinsing it, but it adds a lot less cloudiness than you would think...

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The mistake most people make when rinsing Flourite is stirring or shaking it too much. I use water pressure to agitate it when I rinse it and it comes clean very quickly. Now if I were to start stirring it or otherwise pounding on it then it would take forever to rinse clean. I know, I made that mistake a long time ago.
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post #30 of 43 (permalink) Old 02-12-2003, 12:28 AM Thread Starter
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Buck, yeah I wrote flourite when I meant laterite. Too many ites dancing around in my head.

Is everyone else talking about flourite or laterite?

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