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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 03-30-2004, 04:47 PM Thread Starter
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I can find Flourite at a local Petsmart but can't locate any Eco Complete. I definately prefer the Eco Complete because of the darker color being near black. So you guys prefer one over the other? If so, why?

Anyone know where to find Eco Complete in Southern CA without having it shipped? Or any lfs that will special order it?
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I haven't use eco-comlete, but I just got flourite and I really like the color. You can order eco-complete online from bigals or other places.

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Anyone know where to find Eco Complete in Southern CA without having it shipped? Or any lfs that will special order it?
You can certainly email CaribSea (Eco-Complete's maker) for a retail location.

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You can get flourite in black though I dont know where. I perfer flourite because its cheaper you need less (eco complet compacts a little) and it is more widly used. I am considering a 50/50mix of eco-complet and flourite which should work well.
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Eco-complete hands down the better of two substrates. Much easier than all the flourite washing, just dump it all in , water and all. It even helps cycle your tank. No need to mix it with florite or anything else.
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Hands down! Pretty strong statement. Maybe a bit of an over statement!

I have both Flourite and Eco-Complete. I think the results of use are pretty darn comparable. I can't see any difference in plant growth between the two.

The Flourite was a pain to rinse, of this there is no denying. However, I find it easier to plant in Flourite than in Eco-Complete. My plants seem to stay down better in the Flourite. They float up more out of the Eco-Complete.


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My LFS has a blackish-gray Flourite next to the red stuff. Has anyone used that yet? I thought I might mix it together with Eco-Complete to get the best of both products. (Or would it the "the worst?" )

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i agree flourite was a pain to clean. i suggest cleaning a little at a time to get it as clean as possible. imagine shifting for gold. truth be told, it took a very long time. probably 1hr per bag but its clean. and i really like how it looked in my tank so it was worth it.

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My LFS has a blackish-gray Flourite next to the red stuff.
I think you are talking about onyx. It looks grey under water. Eco is my favorite just because of the color.
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Yeah, there isn't 'black' flourite, but they make Onyx in both sand (a very coarse sand) as well as a larger diameter gravel.

I've never had problems with plants floating up in my eco complete...i do with flourite, but only in areas where the depth is a little on the shallow side.
They're both great at growing plants, so if you like the almost black look of Eco, ask your LFS to order you some. plan on 1 bag for each 10 gallons of standard tank size (more for long tanks, less for tall tanks)...that should get you around 3" deep.

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Ahhhh. There is a Flourite Red and a Flourite. When you guys were complaining about the redness of Flourite (relative to onyx sand), I figured you meant the Flourite Red. So, I guess you really meant that even the Flourite is pretty red relative to onyx sand, although obviously less red than Flourite Red. (Is anyone else confused besides me?)


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Yeah, there isn't 'black' flourite, but they make Onyx in both sand (a very coarse sand) as well as a larger diameter gravel.

I've never had problems with plants floating up in my eco complete...i do with flourite, but only in areas where the depth is a little on the shallow side.
They're both great at growing plants, so if you like the almost black look of Eco, ask your LFS to order you some. plan on 1 bag for each 10 gallons of standard tank size (more for long tanks, less for tall tanks)...that should get you around 3" deep.

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hey mothi, i live in san diego and i know aquatic warehouse sells 20lb bags of eco-complete for 18 bucks..thats where i get mine
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Splash,

Were you looking at Onyx Gravel?

http://www.seachem.com/products/prod...nyxGravel.html

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No. I was really looking at Flourite.
http://www.seachem.com/products/prod.../Flourite.html

Which looks pretty "black" when sitting next to a bag of Flourite Red.
http://www.seachem.com/products/prod...ouriteRed.html


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Were you looking at Onyx Gravel?

http://www.seachem.com/products/prod...nyxGravel.html

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Yeah, but it's not very black in a tank, believe me.

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