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Cloudy water with Aquasoil?

I just replaced my substrate from normal gravel to ADA AS Amazonia a couple days ago in my 5.5g RCS tank. I let it sit in a bucket with water, changing it every day to leech out as much ammonia, since I heard that AS does that.

Anyway, when I replaced the AS, the tank water was full of debris, but its all still a little cloudy. Should I just do a few water changes or will it clear up over time?

The tank is moderately planted and there are only shrimp in the tank. I didn't replace any of the filter media and I got only one shrimp death in the past few days, so I don't think it has anything to do with ammonia levels. Could it be a bacteria bloom?

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Do a few WCs still....
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I just replaced my substrate from normal gravel to ADA AS Amazonia a couple days ago in my 5.5g RCS tank. I let it sit in a bucket with water, changing it every day to leech out as much ammonia, since I heard that AS does that.

Anyway, when I replaced the AS, the tank water was full of debris, but its all still a little cloudy. Should I just do a few water changes or will it clear up over time?

The tank is moderately planted and there are only shrimp in the tank. I didn't replace any of the filter media and I got only one shrimp death in the past few days, so I don't think it has anything to do with ammonia levels. Could it be a bacteria bloom?

Any help would be appreciated.
That sounds like the probable reason. Even though you probably did eliminate much of the Ammonia, believe me it still may be leaching out but in significantly smaller doses. You can always test to make sure and the shrimp death (even if one) is a sign that there still might be a small amount being discharged. I think water changes would be a prudent course of action to remedy that bacterial bloom (if indeed that is what you are seeing, i.e. a white cloudy translucency)...hope this helps!
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I'm doing a WC right now, hopefully it'll clear up!
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be careful if you stir up the substrate. I did a rescape (leaving fish in the tank) and the water got a bit cloudy (NH4+) and I ended up losing 2 or 3 cardinal tetras and 4 rummynoses. If your fish/shrimp are sensitive, it's probably best to remove them if you do any moving around or changing things in there.

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And remember not to disturb the Aquasoil when refilling the aquarium after the water change.
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Yes that's one of the lame things of AS..it might take 2 weeks+ of DAILY 50% water changes before it clears up...

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I was fixing the scape and I got a big cloud, the water is white-brown, took 3 days of 2x 75% water change everday to clear it.
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next time buy Eco...that's my current opinion, more forgiving for us folks that like to rearrange things...

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I'm using oil dri, hopefully it isn't as bad as AS D: I guess I should do WC everyday, but should i stir up some of the dirt cause it creates a layer of dust after some of it settles.
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Hi, i'm using AS amazonia and africana myself. in the first few weeks of using AS the water will turn cloudy, especially so if you add more bacterial addictives.

more importantly, AS cannot be washed or soaked before being used. it won't help reduce cloudiness and in fact will make it worst.

Don't worry about this cloudiness though, i'd recommend doing the normal weekly water changes (as you would in any tank) and just leaving the cloudiness alone. (try not to add bacteria addictives, or if you insist, reduce the dosage by half)

as your tank matures, this cloudiness wil eventually go away and never reappear (i took 2-3 months). after which all thats stired up is debri that will be cleared off by your filters or settle back down in less than an hour to be cleaned up by other fishes.
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iridescencet is correct. Once your inital bacterial bloom goes away it will probably never come back unless there is a dramatic change in the population of your fauna.
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Is cloudly water caused by bacteria? Would it be the same situation with oil dri? I think I might do WC every couple days to help with it, unless it won't help? Thanks.
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in my experience yes, or at least most often it is. and i don't think a UV filter would help much in reducing the bacteria bloom. (bacteria dies in the UV, comes out and feeds the majority of bacteria, majority grows, cycle continues)

large water changes might help but its not practical to do so. (imagine changing half of a 100L tank every 2 days) in a week you'd have wasted (unless you've got smth to use the water well) 150L! could set up a new tank with that amount of water.and there would be no garuntee that the cloudiness would go away.

so i'd just leave it and maintain it like a normal tank.

whats oil dri btw?
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All you have to do is run one batch of activated carbon in the filters and let it expire. This clears it up and is the easiest method for new tanks with ADA AS.

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