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post #106 of 332 (permalink) Old 03-02-2014, 03:40 PM
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Artificial shortages eh?...I plan to use 3 bags in a 20 gallon long, 2 wasn't enough...I want to eventually get to a 75 or so when we buy a house...maybe I'll just stay buying it one bag at a time every few weeks

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post #107 of 332 (permalink) Old 03-07-2014, 11:45 PM
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Some of my notes

1) Clear pour - can safely pour directly into the tank without rinsing.
2) Much easier to root than eco-complete or fluval (push plant in, done - fluval and ecocomplete has a bit of wiggling and holding down needed
3) Growth on the activ flora is much more pronounced than that of the ecocomplete/fluval
4) Activflora is much smaller and may not play that nicely with undergravel filters, however because it is smaller, it much easier to "pack" and maneuver.
5) Waste tends to stay at the top of the substrate, not much in the way of waste drift.
6) Much darker, and stays darker. Eco complete tends to brown/grey out over time
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Still waiting to set up my new tank with this stuff, but cant find the black activ-flor anywhere..

How deep should the substrate ideally be?
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Still waiting to set up my new tank with this stuff, but cant find the black activ-flor anywhere..

How deep should the substrate ideally be?
Usually about 3", but depends on tank. Silly to have 3" in a 3 gallon nano.
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Thanks, this will be on a standard 29g.

Any ideas where to find some of this stuff? Like 3 bags?
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I need some help decyphering their instructions with this.

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"This bag is sufficient for about a 5 cm (2 inch) deep bed in a typical 40 L (10 gallon) tank.
Recommended use is 1 kg (2lbs) for approximately each 200 cm (31 in) of tank bottom at a depth of 5 cm (2 in). "
So if Im reading that right, 2lbs of product will give me enough to do a 2" deep run in a space of 1"x31"?
So each bag will cover roughly 496 sq inch of space?
So if I need to do a 48x13 sq tank @ 2" (1248 sq inch), I need roughly 2.5 bags?

Is that right or is my brain and math shot for the night?
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Anyone knows where to buy ActivFlora online??! Seems impossible to find!
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Thanks, this will be on a standard 29g.

Any ideas where to find some of this stuff? Like 3 bags?
Depends on where you are on the "west coast". There are some local (to me) shops (no online presence) that carry it. I haven't seen a shop with the black activ-flora in stock for at least a month if not two.
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I think you mean thatpetplace.com ... Unless there really is another place?

That was the go-to place for online purchases, but they've been out of the black activ-flora for a month or two now.

http://www.thatpetplace.com/activ-fl...racor-blk-16lb

They do carry other colors. But I'm not interested in those...

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Found this just now? Same substrate everyone is looking for? It doesn't say it's"out of stock" but who knows during check out

https://www.azgardens.com/p-1898-act...substrate.aspx
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was going to order from that place, but it appears they wanted to charge me $40 for shipping plus the price for 3 bags...

Didn't end up purchasing from them.
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I think you mean thatpetplace.com ... Unless there really is another place?

That was the go-to place for online purchases, but they've been out of the black activ-flora for a month or two now.

http://www.thatpetplace.com/activ-fl...racor-blk-16lb

They do carry other colors. But I'm not interested in those...
They are out of stock again. I really want to buy this substrate, but I need 25 bags, it going to take me 6 months to get 25 bags at this rate. I emailed sales, to see if they can help me out, otherwise I will have to get fluorite black sand, I would rather not, but I cannot keep waiting.
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25 bags? Wow!

I only need 3. Like I mentioned above, I was going to buy from that AZ place, but it looked like they were going to charge me $40 shipping just for 3 bags.
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They are out of stock again. I really want to buy this substrate, but I need 25 bags, it going to take me 6 months to get 25 bags at this rate. I emailed sales, to see if they can help me out, otherwise I will have to get fluorite black sand, I would rather not, but I cannot keep waiting.
They've been out of stock since at least early January.

With an order that large, I'd definitely see about contacting the company directly. Good luck!
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