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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 10-11-2013, 07:33 PM Thread Starter
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Substrate for low tech 20g long

I am in the planning stage for my 20g long. It will be heavily planted, but low to medium light.

I have a school of Boraras brigittae that is supposed to move in there. I might add a small school of laser corys, if they are compatible (still need to look into that). I also might add some shrimp (neos).

I love the different types of mosses, so these will be a majority of plants, but I also would like to add some java ferns and a few rooted plants to add some variety in shape and color. But the majority of plants will take their nutrients from the water column.

Would Eco complete still be beneficial? Can I do without root tabs if I use Eco Complete for low to medium light plants?

Does Eco Complete affect the pH in any way?

Are there any disadvantages of using EC? For instance, does it disintegrate over time?
Any advantages over sand beyond the growing of plants? E.g. it seems you don't have to rinse EC, which would be a big advantage for me. Anything else of interest?

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post #2 of 9 (permalink) Old 10-15-2013, 12:17 AM
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Java and mosses would not need additional ferts, but livestock and some med light will probably be suffice. Consistent temperature will probably be more critical for mosses.
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Eco complete is a good substrate but it lacks nutrients that plants need. It will hold the nutrients once there added from fish, root tabs etc. It wont disintegrate over time, and I dont believe it effects your ph level. I've had alot of success with eco complete, with the addition of root tabs, and osmocote.

My opinion is that root tabs lost longer then osmocote. I have also seen a better, and faster reaction with osmocote then root tabs.

Also you should rinse eco complete as it will color your water. I just poke holes on the bottom of the bag, and rinse with water a few times. Then put it in the tank.

Corys will do ok with a hard substrate, but it would be better to use sand. Could damage there whiskers or whatever there called. I have 7 green corys in a 40b with eco complete as substrate. Im growing oval ludwigia, cryptocorye undulata, pennywort, corkscrew vals, and some other random plant.

Im also in the process of setting up a 20long. Im curious to see how yours progresses. Have you decided on a light fixture? I cant decide whether to use a dual 24in T5HO thats extendable to 30in. Or a 30in T5HO dual.
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Since I just placed a larger order on fish stuff, I decided I get my substrate delivered at the same time and decided on Tahitian Moon sand. I'll use feet tabs for root plants if necessary.

Since I only need low to medium light, I am thinking of getting a Finnex Fugeray. I already have a 10" one for my 5.5g and a quite happy with it. I don't have much experience with plants or high light. Luckily, I really love mosses.
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Since I just placed a larger order on fish stuff, I decided I get my substrate delivered at the same time and decided on Tahitian Moon sand. I'll use feet tabs for root plants if necessary.

Since I only need low to medium light, I am thinking of getting a Finnex Fugeray. I already have a 10" one for my 5.5g and a quite happy with it. I don't have much experience with plants or high light. Luckily, I really love mosses.
WHOOOOAAAA : where is the cycling of the tank? you ordered fish before you planted, conditioned and cycled your tank, i would recommend you cycle your tank first or add a dose of nutrafin cycle if you are not gonna do a traditional cycle.

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ordered fish stuff---not fish, or so I understand the typing

20L My Other Tank: OEBT Shrimp
40B Inlaws Tank: 2 goldfish
75 Main Tank w/ sump: 5 Glossolepis pseudoincisus, 5 Melanotaenia boesemani, 10 Melanotaenia praecox, 5 Melanotaenia lacustris, some cories, a bn pleco and rainbow fish fry
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WHOOOOAAAA : where is the cycling of the tank? you ordered fish before you planted, conditioned and cycled your tank, i would recommend you cycle your tank first or add a dose of nutrafin cycle if you are not gonna do a traditional cycle.

Thanks for standing up for our defenseless finned friends! But you can sit down again!

I already have my little boraras family happily living in another tank for quite some time now. The new tank will be set up properly and seeded with cycled filters. And I will wait long enough for everything to be just dandy before my little guys move in!
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ordered fish stuff---not fish, or so I understand the typing
Well, I must admit my typing wasn't at its best, darn iPad!
Take for instance "feet tabs". What on earth are those?!
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Corys are ok with eco complete. My 55 has eco complete and I started with 3 corys, I have one additional cory fry that is getting pretty big and I hatched out about 30 more cories but they are too small to tell if any of them survived when I put them back in the tank... it takes a few weeks for them to get big enough to really see the fry in there

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