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^ Because like you, I too read about it maintaining it's shape. If I pick up a AS pebble from my tank, I can crush it with my girly hands.

I can't do that with Seachem Flourite.
Any of the clay based products will do this.
They contain ferts, the inert hard products do not. They might have the chemicals in them, say like SiO2, or glass, it has O2, but try breathing glass sometime and see how much O2 you get out of it.

If the Mr Aqua product holds up the SAME as ADA, it's still better in my view.
They also state something I've verified with ADA and pretty much any clay based sediment, the ferts will run up for the most part after 12-18 months.
It takes balls to put the truth up there. Won me over on that marketing scheme (the truth). If it lacks the NH4, then you can heat the product a bit more to make the grains remain intact longer.

ADA turns to mush, we have hundreds of folks that have attested to this, myself included, some batches? I've gotten much longer, it depends on how you treat the replanting routines etc.

I just know after redoing a few tanks with this, vs the experiences I've had with the ADA AS at home and elsewhere, this stuff is much better over time.

Will some folks get dogged? Maybe, but if you do several tanks with both products, now you have some statistics to back up what you say, if you only have 1 experience, well.......you really have little else to compare to, maybe you got a bad batch etc. Some folks wail on the soft sediments like these, so Black flourite sand is likely a better option.

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Ah.. the silent of the lambs.

Any substrate on par with ADA is good for the hobby. Us Canadians don't have many choices.



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Just saw "Mr Aqua Soil" at marine depot: $11 for 1l bag. I hope that's a typo.

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Just saw "Mr Aqua Soil" at marine depot: $11 for 1l bag. I hope that's a typo.

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Pretty pricey

I'm not going to pay that much. They need the 9 liter bags.

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I know the UP Aqua Sand (Their new soil) is pretty much impossible to get right now, but we should be getting more come November or December. That is when we will really be distributing a lot of it. As for UP Aqua Soil we won't be carrying that because the UP Aqua Sand should be better and brake down less fast so this will be what we are focusing on.
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Ah.. the silent of the lambs.

Any substrate on par with ADA is good for the hobby. Us Canadians don't have many choices.
Actually, Canadians are now getting a lot more choices for plant substrates, but you have to shop in the Asian district of the GTA to get them. I've seen Up Aqua Soil, ADA AS, Netlea and some others I don't know the name of cause I don't read mandarin. But one I've always wanted to try is the dupla ground which Europeans swear by.

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I had the up aquasoil for over a year in a 90 gallon and had bad results. From the start it broke down into a fine black dust that floated around in the tank. The filter would consistently be black with dust. I would change the filter floss every few days because of the amount of breakdown. Plants were NOT frequently moved. Maybe I just got a bad batch...
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I had the up aquasoil for over a year in a 90 gallon and had bad results. From the start it broke down into a fine black dust that floated around in the tank. The filter would consistently be black with dust. I would change the filter floss every few days because of the amount of breakdown. Plants were NOT frequently moved. Maybe I just got a bad batch...
That is too common with a lot of planted soils. This new UP Aqua "Aqua Sand" should fix that problem. It is a lot denser. Plus the old UP Aqua soil was made in China and it had consistency issues much like the ADA Aquasoil because it is made in China as well I believe. But this new UP Aqua "Aqua Sand" is made in Taiwan and each batch is supposed to be high quality.
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I want to try: Cal Aqua Black Earth, Borneo Wild Shrimp or Plant soil, Shirakura soil, Benibachi soil and any others we can't get.
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Can someone post a link to this soil on marinedepot or some other online store?

I have not had success with ADA Amazonia soil. After months and months, with lots of plants, the ammonia level stays above 8ppm, and not all plants survive.
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Pretty pricey

I'm not going to pay that much. They need the 9 liter bags.
I bought a larger bag of it on amazon, but I don't think it was 9 liters. It's still more expensive than ADA, but at least amazon has free shipping. They list the shipping weight as 10.6 pounds.
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9l is about 17 lbs for Aquasoil IIRC.
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The new UP Aqua "Aqua Sand" comes in a 11lb. bag. And it should start hitting stores come November or December.
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Here is
Mr. Aqua Water Plant Soil for Aquarium Mr. Aqua Water Plant Soil for Aquarium


But it is not from UP Aqua. I don't think this is the one you're referring to?



Are you referring to this one from UP Aquarium Supply?

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Here is Mr. Aqua Water Plant Soil for Aquarium


But it is not from UP Aqua. I don't think this is the one you're referring to?



Are you referring to this one from UP Aquarium Supply?

Yeah we are talking about the UP Aqua "Aqua Sand" not the Mr. Aqua
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