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Eco-Complete or FloraMax?

Just out of curiosity, which one is better?
I'm looking online at the Petsmart and Petco sites and Petsmart only has FloraMax and Petco only has Eco-Complete...which one should I get and how much of it should i get to get a good decent amount/layer in a 25 gallon tank?
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Just out of curiosity, which one is better?
I'm looking online at the Petsmart and Petco sites and Petsmart only has FloraMax and Petco only has Eco-Complete...which one should I get and how much of it should i get to get a good decent amount/layer in a 25 gallon tank?
i really like the eco a lot better, a bit more porous and a better grain size in my opinion

i did one bag in a 20 long but not sure of your footprint size for a 25

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Petsmart carries Flourite as well as Floramax.... IMO eco-complete sux because every time I've tried using it my plants started dying off, and I did the same exact regiment & dosing as I have with Flourite and Floramax and never had any problems with Flourite or Floramax.

Here's my old 75 gallon planted tank with a 70/30 mix of Flourite (70), and Floramax (30)

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well, there is a lot of people who use eco complete and grow plants wonderfully

im jaded i guess because i find whats under the eco and flora-max far more important

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This week I'm in the process of mineralizing 3 9L bags of MGOPM and capping it with 3 15lb bags of Flora-Max for my 90g.
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Just out of curiosity, which one is better?
I'm looking online at the Petsmart and Petco sites and Petsmart only has FloraMax and Petco only has Eco-Complete...which one should I get and how much of it should i get to get a good decent amount/layer in a 25 gallon tank?
Both of this products are almost the same, the difference being:

Eco-complete
Pros:
-smaller grain
-comes with beneficial bacteria
- not a lot of rising needed
Cons:
- pricey

FloraMax
Pros:
-bit cheaper
-the same as Eco but with out the bacteria
Cons:
- grain is a bit coarse
- need some good rising (not to much)


I recently have used FloraMax to setup a 27g hexagon tank and I got to say I'm very happy with it. It was cheaper, bought 2 bags for $27.91 (includes shipping), and I got about a good 3" of depth. My plants love it, they started to grow their roots really fast and new leafs are already sprouting. The only problem that I had with FloraMax was that it left my tank cloudy for a few days, though that was because I only rinsed it twice, but each bag comes with a classifier.

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I've used both, and seem to have better luck using the eco

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If you plan on buying it online... i suggest Dr. fosters and smith. Cheaper than petsmart and petco alot of times. but if your planning on picking it up there go with petsmart. petco is only cheap at certain times. right now petco has a 25% off site deal right now.
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I am using 3 bags of floramax in my 55 gallon. I have had no problems what so ever. I also have a bunch of flourite I am waiting on using. But floromax is cheaper.

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Get Aqua soil if you can afford it. Anyways here is my tank with eco complete.

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ECO COMPLETE!!! Ive never used anything else, and my tank is heavily planted with swords. No co2, no liquid fertilizer. ECO COMPLETE only
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hmm...I may be leaning more towards eco-complete for now...as for how much should I get of it though...how bags would I need to be able to get a decent layer/amount in a 25 gallon tank?
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i think 2 bags will be enough, you might still have some left. Eco complete and Floramax aren't the best, they lack all the most important nutrients, they only supply with minerals, such as Mg, Ca, iron etc. they require you to dose liquid fert which can be absorbed by the substrate. you can simply crush a Lava rock and have similar type of substrate. if you can afford it i would go with Aqua soil.
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i think 2 bags will be enough, you might still have some left. Eco complete and Floramax aren't the best, they lack all the most important nutrients, they only supply with minerals, such as Mg, Ca, iron etc. they require you to dose liquid fert which can be absorbed by the substrate. you can simply crush a Lava rock and have similar type of substrate. if you can afford it i would go with Aqua soil.
I see...hmmm if I'm doing a 3 layered type of look...would 1 bag be enough? (bottom most layer would be a medium amount of natural rock looking gravel, middle layer would be a thin to medium thick layer of the eco-complete or whatever substrate I end up choosing, and top most layer would be a thin ayer of pure white gravel)

As for it not having the important nutrients....I'm planning to put in root tabs...would that suffice? I'm only planning on putting in hornworts, java moss and possibly one more different type of moss, java fern, narrow leaf fern, dwarf sag, and jungle val.
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Eco complete is fairly light substrate that everytime I plant trimmings they would float.

Make sure you have enough of it when you finally decide to buy.
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